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« on: April 03, 2020, 11:06:34 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2020, 11:08:24 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2020, 11:08:33 AM »

Note that this is an internal poll for the Doug Collins Senate campaign.  That's pretty good for Biden in a Republican internal.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2020, 11:08:44 AM »

Weak numbers for Trump considering this is a Collins internal.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 11:13:36 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

This type of attitude would explain a lot of why Democrats don’t seem to win as much as you would think they should.

Republicans see a poll showing Trump down 2: “Good poll for Trump!”

Democrats see a poll showing Biden down 2 points: “likely R”
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2020, 11:14:18 AM »
« Edited: April 03, 2020, 11:24:25 AM by krb08 »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

How did you come to that conclusion from him being down only 2 in a Collins (R) internal poll? This is the exact opposite of what you should have gotten from this poll.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2020, 11:25:13 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

This type of attitude would explain a lot of why Democrats don’t seem to win as much as you would think they should.

Republicans see a poll showing Trump down 2: “Good poll for Trump!”

Democrats see a poll showing Biden down 2 points: “likely R”
Because Georgia will not decide the election. Clinton wasted her time in campaigning in states that she could not win when she should have focused on WI, MI, and PA. I don't want Biden to make the same mistake.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 11:26:43 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

How did you come to that conclusion from him being down only 2 in a Collins (R) internal poll? This is the exact opposite of what you should have gotten from this poll.
How does that necessarily mean that the poll has an R bias? Even if Biden has a chance to win (which he does), there are more important states to focus on.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 11:27:46 AM »

Why shouldn't he invest here, Trump only 2 pts ahead in GA makes it a swing state
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 11:27:50 AM »

Lmao this is the best they can do in an internal which has Collins (R) beating the Democratic challenger by 13 points in the Senate race?
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 11:29:08 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

How did you come to that conclusion from him being down only 2 in a Collins (R) internal poll? This is the exact opposite of what you should have gotten from this poll.
How does that necessarily mean that the poll has an R bias? Even if Biden has a chance to win (which he does), there are more important states to focus on.

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Internal polls from either party always favor their preferred party by a few more points than an independent poll would show. It definitely has a bias, all internal polls do. Do you not know anything about internal polling? This is a great poll for Biden.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 11:32:19 AM »

Seems realistic. Don't think Biden should invest too heavily here unless it's to help the downballot Senate races.

How did you come to that conclusion from him being down only 2 in a Collins (R) internal poll? This is the exact opposite of what you should have gotten from this poll.
How does that necessarily mean that the poll has an R bias? Even if Biden has a chance to win (which he does), there are more important states to focus on.

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Internal polls from either party always favor their preferred party by a few more points than an independent poll would show. It definitely has a bias, all internal polls do. Do you not know anything about internal polling? This is a great poll for Biden.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 11:33:24 AM »

Lmao this is the best they can do in an internal which has Collins (R) beating the Democratic challenger by 13 points in the Senate race?

This is a Republican internal poll?!
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2020, 11:37:21 AM »

Why shouldn't he invest here, Trump only 2 pts ahead in GA makes it a swing state
If Georgia is even in play, Biden will be way above 270 and have won in a landslide without it
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2020, 12:06:09 PM »

Lmao this is the best they can do in an internal which has Collins (R) beating the Democratic challenger by 13 points in the Senate race?

This is a Republican internal poll?!

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2020, 12:07:22 PM »

Pretty consistent with the most recent numbers I've seen in my own work. We've yet to see Trump exceed a 3-point lead in the state.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2020, 12:08:40 PM »

Georgia is in play but changes to voting habits make it unknown how turnout will be impacted.

But I have a feeling once Georgia goes blue it won't go back. I don't think it will teeter in swing state status like North Carolina.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2020, 12:10:45 PM »

Digging into the crosstabs, the news gets even worse for Trump...

                 Republican Democratic Independent
Donald Trump   96%          5%             39%
Joe Biden          3%             89%           48%
Undecided         1%             6%             13%

... As you can see, Trump already had 96% of republican support. No room to grow there essentially. Meanwhile, 6% of Democrats are undecided. If we give them to Biden, he is already at 48% (AKA almost what Abrams got).
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2020, 12:14:37 PM »

There'a plenty of time for Biden to pick up the 2 points in Georgia.  The way things are going, we may have a sea change.  Trump could end up getting no more than 43% of the national vote.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2020, 12:20:36 PM »

Yeah, but clearly Georgia is Likely R, less likely to flip than IA or ME-02 because of “elasticity” or something like that. Obviously even a miracle wouldn’t get Biden clear of that stubborn 44% 45% 46% 48.8% unbreakable ceiling. Tungsten Lean R.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2020, 12:25:28 PM »

Given that this is an R internal poll, it is entirely consistent with a national Biden lead of 6-9 points.
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2020, 12:25:36 PM »

Oh boy.
If future poll numbers look this close, I can see Biden and the Dem Machine contesting GA in a more serious manner.
To be continued.
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2020, 12:27:29 PM »

Lmao this is the best they can do in an internal which has Collins (R) beating the Democratic challenger by 13 points in the Senate race?

This is a Republican internal poll?!
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2020, 12:33:55 PM »

Biden could be declared apparent winner in Georgia on election night and half of this forum would still deny it and say its still Safe R
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2020, 12:41:27 PM »

Yeah, but clearly Georgia is Likely R, less likely to flip than IA or ME-02 because of “elasticity” or something like that. Obviously even a miracle wouldn’t get Biden clear of that stubborn 44% 45% 46% 48.8% unbreakable ceiling. Tungsten Lean R.

If Biden loses GA, he’s already won IA by a landslide.
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