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« on: March 28, 2020, 07:14:01 PM »

I thought this was going to be one of those conspiracy theories like the one that says that the period between 500 and 800 didn't exist.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 07:34:05 PM »

I mean, who said that this team had to be made of 4 specific job titles? How about the Atlasian Historical Preservation Committee, made up of 4 committee members appointed by the president, and possibly also approved by the Senate. These 4 people can be anyone with wiki access, officeholding or not, and you hold the position until you resign, are kicked out, or aren't active for X days.

I ended up doing must of the wiki statute updating myself when I was President. These committees start of good in some cases, then typically end up inactive.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 08:19:14 PM »

I mean, who said that this team had to be made of 4 specific job titles? How about the Atlasian Historical Preservation Committee, made up of 4 committee members appointed by the president, and possibly also approved by the Senate. These 4 people can be anyone with wiki access, officeholding or not, and you hold the position until you resign, are kicked out, or aren't active for X days.

I ended up doing most of the wiki statute updating myself when I was President. These committees start of good in some cases, then typically end up inactive.

Then why not regularly shake them up? Instead of serving forever, they could also serve for terms, and must be re-appointed or replaced. This might curbtail boredom and inactivity. We could also perhaps go with a number larger or smaller than four.

I split the position of Archivist and added two people to the position just a month prior. Still ended up doing the statute pages myself.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 08:27:40 PM »

I mean, who said that this team had to be made of 4 specific job titles? How about the Atlasian Historical Preservation Committee, made up of 4 committee members appointed by the president, and possibly also approved by the Senate. These 4 people can be anyone with wiki access, officeholding or not, and you hold the position until you resign, are kicked out, or aren't active for X days.

I ended up doing most of the wiki statute updating myself when I was President. These committees start of good in some cases, then typically end up inactive.

Then why not regularly shake them up? Instead of serving forever, they could also serve for terms, and must be re-appointed or replaced. This might curbtail boredom and inactivity. We could also perhaps go with a number larger or smaller than four.

Committees aren't useless because people get bored, committees are useless because they lack direction, clear mandates, and accountability. If you institute term limits, people will just forget, and then Tack gets to create a new thread a year from now about how there hasn't been a Wiki Committee for [n] months and nobody noticed.

Well then, make the title more official. Make it a cabinet dept. or something. I know that sounds stupid, but what's the alternative? Forcing certain officeholders to do it? The same problem arises, and it's likely that nobody will remember that the President, Vice President, et cetera have this certain responsibility.
We already tried that: it didn't work. The correct course of action is what Tack has done: draw attention to the matter and rely on volunteerism. Creating new offices does not reduce problems, it multiplies them.

Dolling out offices to people is a great way to ensure that crap doesn't get done. Far better to have someone demonstrate that interest and capability first and then appoint or create an office to reflect their proven contributions.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2020, 12:43:56 AM »

Well, after looking at the position from Truman and Yankee, I guess resurrecting the National Archivist position is not necesarily a good idea. It isn't necesarily bad either, though we would need a suitable candidate.

Another option could be to simply make it part of the job description of another office. The 4 man idea between the Senate PPT, Speaker of the House, VP and President should be ok; though the president is probably the one that has the hands the freest so maybe he can be the one formally in charge.

I have also introduced regional legislation in Lincoln to this effect, just replacing the federal titles with their regional equivalents.



I don't think Peanut could swing extra load right now, that said VP and President are in best position to handle the statute pages since they handled them last.

Of course we could just go back to doing it the way we did preset, which was to have the attorney general do it. Tongue I am sure we can force Truman to get it all done at gun point or something. 
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