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« Reply #250 on: December 20, 2021, 07:05:23 PM »

Why do they keep switching every other day between the D and R map.
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« Reply #251 on: December 20, 2021, 07:17:19 PM »

Bro that map sucks. If 6 is gonna become swingy then making a swingy 8th is only fair
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« Reply #252 on: December 21, 2021, 02:49:42 PM »

Neuberg does seem to want to make the East Tucson seat more competitive based on the current hearing
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« Reply #253 on: December 21, 2021, 02:58:06 PM »

Neuberg does seem to want to make the East Tucson seat more competitive based on the current hearing

What does that mean? It’s already 50-50 on 2020 Pres basically, so does it flip Biden? Seems like the main thing the commission wanted to deal with when I last checked was the CD-6 arm in Pinal but that was very heated
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« Reply #254 on: December 21, 2021, 02:58:56 PM »

Neuberg does seem to want to make the East Tucson seat more competitive based on the current hearing

What does that mean? It’s already 50-50 on 2020 Pres basically, so does it flip Biden? Seems like the main thing the commission wanted to deal with when I last checked was the CD-6 arm in Pinal but that was very heated

Well they are using a composite so that's why it would be more D as the one in 12.1 is like R+4 according to the composite.
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« Reply #255 on: December 21, 2021, 03:20:35 PM »

Neuberg does seem to want to make the East Tucson seat more competitive based on the current hearing

What does that mean? It’s already 50-50 on 2020 Pres basically, so does it flip Biden? Seems like the main thing the commission wanted to deal with when I last checked was the CD-6 arm in Pinal but that was very heated

Well they are using a composite so that's why it would be more D as the one in 12.1 is like R+4 according to the composite.

Yeah having it go to Biden only seems fair, especially since AZ-01 is already narrow as is. Ngl, I was kinda hoping 8 would become more competitive, but at that point one could argue the AZ map favors Dems
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« Reply #256 on: December 21, 2021, 07:05:55 PM »

Yup the vote spread includes  2018 governor.
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« Reply #257 on: December 21, 2021, 08:08:39 PM »

Dems on the commission are really salty about the map today
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« Reply #258 on: December 22, 2021, 12:02:01 AM »

They switched back again.

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« Reply #259 on: December 22, 2021, 12:06:03 AM »

They switched back again.


Are they actually going to finish the maps or just switch between two starting point drafts every day until the end of time?
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« Reply #260 on: December 22, 2021, 12:10:45 AM »

So it looks like we'll end up with:
2 Safe Dem (AZ-03, AZ-07)
1 Likely/Lean Dem (AZ-04)
2 left-trending Tossups that narrowly went to Biden (AZ-01, AZ-06)
2 Likely R (AZ-02, AZ-08)
2 Safe R (AZ-05, AZ-09)

Given the partisanship of the state, it seems very fair to me.
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« Reply #261 on: December 22, 2021, 12:11:33 AM »

So it looks like we'll end up with:
2 Safe Dem (AZ-03, AZ-07)
1 Likely/Lean Dem (AZ-04)
2 left-trending Tossups that narrowly went to Biden (AZ-01, AZ-06)
2 Likely R (AZ-02, AZ-08)
2 Safe R (AZ-05, AZ-09)

Given the partisanship of the state, it seems very fair to me.
What's the map look like?
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« Reply #262 on: December 22, 2021, 12:12:37 AM »

So it looks like we'll end up with:
2 Safe Dem (AZ-03, AZ-07)
1 Likely/Lean Dem (AZ-04)
2 left-trending Tossups that narrowly went to Biden (AZ-01, AZ-06)
2 Likely R (AZ-02, AZ-08)
2 Safe R (AZ-05, AZ-09)

Given the partisanship of the state, it seems very fair to me.
What's the map look like?

My guess is it'll be very similar to the Dem starting point. Though maybe AZ-06's arm into Pinal is cleaned up a bit.
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« Reply #263 on: December 22, 2021, 12:28:28 AM »

So it looks like we'll end up with:
2 Safe Dem (AZ-03, AZ-07)
1 Likely/Lean Dem (AZ-04)
2 left-trending Tossups that narrowly went to Biden (AZ-01, AZ-06)
2 Likely R (AZ-02, AZ-08)
2 Safe R (AZ-05, AZ-09)

Given the partisanship of the state, it seems very fair to me.

This sounds pretty fair to me
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« Reply #264 on: December 22, 2021, 07:38:04 AM »

So it looks like we'll end up with:
2 Safe Dem (AZ-03, AZ-07)
1 Likely/Lean Dem (AZ-04)
2 left-trending Tossups that narrowly went to Biden (AZ-01, AZ-06)
2 Likely R (AZ-02, AZ-08)
2 Safe R (AZ-05, AZ-09)

Given the partisanship of the state, it seems very fair to me.

This sounds pretty fair to me

IMO there should be a lean R seat, but otherwise it’s a decent map
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« Reply #265 on: December 22, 2021, 12:13:21 PM »



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« Reply #266 on: December 22, 2021, 12:17:59 PM »

DRA of 13.9 -

https://davesredistricting.org/join/7f22ee2b-7a0e-47bb-a293-427ea033a719
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« Reply #267 on: December 22, 2021, 12:29:33 PM »

Is that ugly split of Cochise because of the Hispanic population there?
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« Reply #268 on: December 22, 2021, 12:54:11 PM »

That 6th is cleaner than it was previously.
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« Reply #269 on: December 22, 2021, 12:55:41 PM »

Since Yee is polling so poorly in Gov. race, I wonder if she drops down to AZ-01 and tries to primary scandal-ridden Schweikert
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« Reply #270 on: December 22, 2021, 05:23:01 PM »

Republicans poised to gain congressional seats in Arizona after redistricting panel approves new map

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Arizona's representation in the U.S. House of Representatives is likely to shift to a Republican majority after the Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission unanimously approved a transformative, GOP-leaning congressional map Wednesday morning.

Arizona's current congressional delegation is made up of five Democrats and four Republicans. The new map, should it withstand legal challenges, favors Republicans in five — and possibly six — of the state's nine districts.

Yet the five-member commission approved the map with a 5-0 vote, which Republican commissioner Douglas York attributed to the effort of independent chair Erika Neuberg, who called the map a "sweet spot for all sides to be well-positioned."

She acknowledged that "each side is deeply disappointed by aspects of this map."
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« Reply #271 on: December 22, 2021, 05:30:26 PM »

Since Yee is polling so poorly in Gov. race, I wonder if she drops down to AZ-01 and tries to primary scandal-ridden Schweikert

There’s already a credible candidate in that race with Elijah Norton. Yee I think might run against Sinema in 2024.
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« Reply #272 on: December 22, 2021, 07:58:44 PM »

Arizona has also passed their legislative map 16.1:



It has 15 Biden seats and 15 Trump seats.
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« Reply #273 on: December 22, 2021, 08:24:11 PM »

They don't have Leg. map 16.1, but here's 16.0 on DRA -

https://davesredistricting.org/join/3c598e73-8767-4395-86a7-42586f3aa34e

It looks like there's more long term upside for Dems here than GOP.   There's only 8 R seats outside of the Phoenix and Tucson metros, and seems like the R's have to depend on winning more of the marginal seats than D's do.  

Both chambers have two year terms so the next good year for Democrats should see them winning a majority in either or both chambers.

Was there any major changes between 16.0 and 16.1?
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« Reply #274 on: December 23, 2021, 01:47:14 PM »

I think these are fair maps. And they obviously have more upside for the Dems looking at them outside of 2022 blinders.
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