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« Reply #1150 on: April 30, 2020, 02:04:54 AM »

Harris tried to bring this up in the primary with Biden and attack his record on Anita Hill, but African Americans, in the South were the ones that supported Biden over Harris due to Obama's connection with Biden. 
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« Reply #1151 on: April 30, 2020, 02:15:30 AM »

This article does a good job with explaining why Reade is not credible.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

Here are some of the points she makes that are shaping my perspective.

1. Changed story multiple times.
2. Biden's staffers at the time of the alleged incident are firm in their denial that Reade ever made a complaint.
3. The nonexistent formal complaint.
4. Lied about losing her job.
5. Past tweets praising Biden's work fighting sexual assault.
6. Her emphatic support for Sanders.

I think an under-reported aspect of this case is how intentionally vague Reade's claim is. By not providing any specifics regarding when and where the attack took place not only is the press unable to corroborate or contradict her story but Biden himself is unable to prove his innocence.
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« Reply #1152 on: April 30, 2020, 02:36:23 AM »

This article does a good job with explaining why Reade is not credible.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

Here are some of the points she makes that are shaping my perspective.

1. Changed story multiple times.
2. Biden's staffers at the time of the alleged incident are firm in their denial that Reade ever made a complaint.
3. The nonexistent formal complaint.
4. Lied about losing her job.
5. Past tweets praising Biden's work fighting sexual assault.
6. Her emphatic support for Sanders.
Thank you Michael Stern. FINALLY a good article on this fiasco. He came through where the NY Times and others utterly failed.
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« Reply #1153 on: April 30, 2020, 05:16:16 AM »

This article does a good job with explaining why Reade is not credible.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

Here are some of the points she makes that are shaping my perspective.

1. Changed story multiple times.
2. Biden's staffers at the time of the alleged incident are firm in their denial that Reade ever made a complaint.
3. The nonexistent formal complaint.
4. Lied about losing her job.
5. Past tweets praising Biden's work fighting sexual assault.
6. Her emphatic support for Sanders.

I'm glad someone was willing to say it. The article does a nice job of acting putting together all the facts that we've found out that most major publications have frustratingly left out.
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« Reply #1154 on: April 30, 2020, 07:13:20 AM »

What I don't get is why Tara Reade waited until Biden had the nod wrapped up to do this. I can understand victims waiting to go public if, for instance, their assailant is about to get a big promotion, or if other people's coming out with testimony make them more credible (we've seen that a lot). But the point is to do it when it'll have the intended impact, no? At this point it mostly helps Trump. Had she gone public at any point in 2019, it would've had a much bigger impact on the D primary.

The question is the answer, Beet.

“Bring on the Light” By Alexandra Tara Reade

(published Dec 17, 2018 on Medium, deleted at some point prior to April 04, 2020, but still online thanks to the Wayback Machine)

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President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. President Putin has higher approval ratings in America then the American President. President Putin is beloved by Russia and he not going anywhere. Instead of being ensnared in the recent political intrigues (and America is trying hard to set that trap). President Putin is keeping a calm focus on his own country’s development and future, without America.

To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.

And to put the above in a little context:

Putin’s War on Women (Foreign Policy, April 19, 2018)
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When Russia decriminalized domestic violence in February 2017, civil servants tasked with protecting women in the country’s far east were dismayed by the new vulnerability of their wards. Yet few officials opposed the measure. President Vladimir Putin signed off on the bill after the lower house of the Russian parliament, the Duma, overwhelmingly approved it by a vote of 380 to 3. The new law recategorized the crime of violence against family members: Abuse that does not result in broken bones, and does not occur more than once a year, is no longer punishable by long prison sentences. The worst sanctions that abusers now face are fines of up to $530, 10- to 15-day stints in jail, or community service work. That’s if the courts side with the victim. They rarely do.

This piece on Medium has a much longer breakdown of Tara Reid's about-faces on both Putin and Biden over the last few years.
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« Reply #1155 on: April 30, 2020, 08:07:19 AM »

^^^^
Thank you for posting the info above, Runeghost.
Reade is a Putin loving pycho.
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« Reply #1156 on: April 30, 2020, 08:35:10 AM »

Biden needs to address this problem. Now. He's being called a rapist by sports media radio hosts too. He can't let this slide.
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« Reply #1157 on: April 30, 2020, 08:40:25 AM »

This is an excerpt from a book that Reade's father wrote. Anything look familiar?



His obituary mentioned that he wrote this book mentions his children, including one named Tara.

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« Reply #1158 on: April 30, 2020, 09:47:54 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2020, 10:01:32 AM by Crumpets »

What I don't get is why Tara Reade waited until Biden had the nod wrapped up to do this. I can understand victims waiting to go public if, for instance, their assailant is about to get a big promotion, or if other people's coming out with testimony make them more credible (we've seen that a lot). But the point is to do it when it'll have the intended impact, no? At this point it mostly helps Trump. Had she gone public at any point in 2019, it would've had a much bigger impact on the D primary.

This is another huge distinction between the Ford and Reade claims. Ford wrote the administration a private letter as soon as Kavanaugh came up as a possible pick outlining the same claims she made public once the Senate was set to confirm. Reade not only waited until Biden was the presumptive nominee, but teased the story publicly, in effect saying "I could do something now, but I'm choosing not to for an unspecified reason that's clearly not wanting to maintain my anonymity."

Sure she clearly has no love for Biden and wants to see him taken down - I don't think anyone disputes that - but it's also clear she deliberately waited until people had hypothetically lost the right to do anything practical with her claims short if having to throw Biden out at the convention and have the DNC pick the nominee. That is incredibly suspicious to me and absolutely not something that could have been said of how Ford handled the Kavanaugh nomination.
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« Reply #1159 on: April 30, 2020, 10:08:58 AM »

The View is talking about this.
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« Reply #1160 on: April 30, 2020, 10:09:12 AM »

Biden needs to address this problem. Now. He's being called a rapist by sports media radio hosts too. He can't let this slide.

OH NO THE HORROR!

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« Reply #1161 on: April 30, 2020, 10:12:55 AM »


You seem to have a lot of free time on your hands.
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« Reply #1162 on: April 30, 2020, 10:22:19 AM »

Biden needs to address this problem. Now. He's being called a rapist by sports media radio hosts too. He can't let this slide.

Off topic, but they should have one of the Biden-Trump debates moderated by Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. Just imagine the cringe.
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« Reply #1163 on: April 30, 2020, 10:22:35 AM »

Biden needs to address this problem. Now. He's being called a rapist by sports media radio hosts too. He can't let this slide.

OH NO THE HORROR!

Lol
If I were him, I would protect my integrity by shooting this rumors down with a press conference. The more he hides, the more this goes on.
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« Reply #1164 on: April 30, 2020, 10:24:06 AM »

I watched The View segment. Seems like the panel was skeptical of the allegation. And judging from the response outside of Twitter and the beltway, I'd say skepticism is the most common response to this story.

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« Reply #1165 on: April 30, 2020, 10:25:07 AM »

I watched The View segment. Seems like the panel was skeptical of the allegation. And judging from the response outside of Twitter and the beltway, I'd say skepticism is the most common response to this story.


What were the takes of each panelist?
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« Reply #1166 on: April 30, 2020, 10:29:25 AM »


At this point, it doesn't even matter to me whether or not Biden is guilty (in terms of how it affects my vote); the fact that his campaign, with his apparent approval, has decided to target her character as a way of discrediting her, places him beyond the pale to me. I have far too much experience with the effects of sexual assault on loved ones to ever tolerate such despicable behavior. Either come out and present your case how you are innocent or admit your guilt and apologize (as Averroes said, that decision should be based on the facts), but don't engage in this awful tactic that has been used for centuries to discredit, silence, and intimidate the millions upon millions of victims. And especially don't do it while talking out the other side of your mouth about how much you value women and SA victims and human rights.
What? This is absolutely NOT something his campaign is doing.
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« Reply #1167 on: April 30, 2020, 10:33:43 AM »


At this point, it doesn't even matter to me whether or not Biden is guilty (in terms of how it affects my vote); the fact that his campaign, with his apparent approval, has decided to target her character as a way of discrediting her, places him beyond the pale to me. I have far too much experience with the effects of sexual assault on loved ones to ever tolerate such despicable behavior. Either come out and present your case how you are innocent or admit your guilt and apologize (as Averroes said, that decision should be based on the facts), but don't engage in this awful tactic that has been used for centuries to discredit, silence, and intimidate the millions upon millions of victims. And especially don't do it while talking out the other side of your mouth about how much you value women and SA victims and human rights.
I love how you pinned this article on his campaign with absolutely no proof. The fact that Biden won the nomination without bending the knee to socialists really has y’all hurt.
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« Reply #1168 on: April 30, 2020, 10:35:08 AM »

I watched The View segment. Seems like the panel was skeptical of the allegation. And judging from the response outside of Twitter and the beltway, I'd say skepticism is the most common response to this story.


What were the takes of each panelist?

They had a reporter from ABC on, Mary Bruce. Sunny was asking her questions. Joy is clearly very skeptical. It was a pretty short segment. I was cleaning so wasn't paying alot of attention, but nothing stood out to me as damaging to Biden.
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« Reply #1169 on: April 30, 2020, 10:37:11 AM »

Who thought that it would be a brilliant idea to nominate the person who threw Anita Hill under the bus?
Maybe if Bernie didn’t listen to the a-hole/Chapo/Rose Twitter wing of his campaign over the moderates who were telling him after Nevada to pivot by comparing himself to FDR to win over more mainstream democrats he’d contest SC harder to keep Biden’s margins down and actually win Texas and NC on ST like he was polling to do. All resulting in him at this point running full steam to the WH

Or maybe if the Establishment didn't unify by collectively dropping out just before Super Tuesday to endorse Joe Biden, likely encouraged to by Obama in private, while Warren, Bernie's primary competition for voters in the primary, remained in the race, then perhaps the results may have been more representative of polling leading up to those races (which were promising for Sanders).
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« Reply #1170 on: April 30, 2020, 10:38:40 AM »

Who thought that it would be a brilliant idea to nominate the person who threw Anita Hill under the bus?
Maybe if Bernie didn’t listen to the a-hole/Chapo/Rose Twitter wing of his campaign over the moderates who were telling him after Nevada to pivot by comparing himself to FDR to win over more mainstream democrats he’d contest SC harder to keep Biden’s margins down and actually win Texas and NC on ST like he was polling to do. All resulting in him at this point running full steam to the WH

Or maybe if the Establishment didn't unify by collectively dropping out just before Super Tuesday to endorse Joe Biden, likely encouraged to by Obama in private, while Warren, Bernie's primary competition for voters in the primary, remained in the race, then perhaps the results may have been more representative of polling leading up to those races (which were promising for Sanders).
Off-topic but Warren voters basically split 50-50 post ST.
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« Reply #1171 on: April 30, 2020, 10:39:54 AM »

Biden needs to say something. Now.
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« Reply #1172 on: April 30, 2020, 10:43:33 AM »

Who thought that it would be a brilliant idea to nominate the person who threw Anita Hill under the bus?
Maybe if Bernie didn’t listen to the a-hole/Chapo/Rose Twitter wing of his campaign over the moderates who were telling him after Nevada to pivot by comparing himself to FDR to win over more mainstream democrats he’d contest SC harder to keep Biden’s margins down and actually win Texas and NC on ST like he was polling to do. All resulting in him at this point running full steam to the WH

Or maybe if the Establishment didn't unify by collectively dropping out just before Super Tuesday to endorse Joe Biden, likely encouraged to by Obama in private, while Warren, Bernie's primary competition for voters in the primary, remained in the race, then perhaps the results may have been more representative of polling leading up to those races (which were promising for Sanders).
Off-topic but Warren voters basically split 50-50 post ST.
They do seem to ignore that don't they?  You guys burned that bridge of support by calling her a lying shrill.
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« Reply #1173 on: April 30, 2020, 10:44:03 AM »

I'm not subscribed to Business Insider, but they have a story saying that  people from Biden's team have gone to look through his archives at the University of Delaware to see if they can find anything related to Reade.

Of course, this isn't going to please the people upset with Biden because his campaign reiterated that they weren't going to release his records to the media. And one can assume if they did find something damaging, they wouldn't release it. But there's also a chance they could find something that could help exonerate him. Honestly, doesn't hurt to check.
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« Reply #1174 on: April 30, 2020, 10:44:31 AM »


At this point, it doesn't even matter to me whether or not Biden is guilty (in terms of how it affects my vote); the fact that his campaign, with his apparent approval, has decided to target her character as a way of discrediting her, places him beyond the pale to me. I have far too much experience with the effects of sexual assault on loved ones to ever tolerate such despicable behavior. Either come out and present your case how you are innocent or admit your guilt and apologize (as Averroes said, that decision should be based on the facts), but don't engage in this awful tactic that has been used for centuries to discredit, silence, and intimidate the millions upon millions of victims. And especially don't do it while talking out the other side of your mouth about how much you value women and SA victims and human rights.
What? This is absolutely NOT something his campaign is doing.

You're right, I mistakenly attributed some of the negative tactics of certain Biden supporters in the media/social media with an endorsement or at least approval of that approach by his campaign, and judged him/his campaign on that basis. I shouldn't have done that.
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