When is Bernie going to drop out?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

when Biden secures 1,991 delegates and announces he wants to ressurect the Soviet Union.

[The Simpsons Cinematic Universe]

Never. Bernie's going all the way!

[Rookie Yinzer]

The guy suffers from Messiah complex. It was funny but now it's just plain sad.

It's delusion. Like being President is going to automatically give him the political prowess to get this done. Look at the opposition Hillary and Bill faced trying to do Hillarycare in the 90's or Obama faced with the ACA. Bernie's thin skinned ass could never handle that level of scrutiny and obstruction. He's a dud.

[Roll Roons]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/sanders-its-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road-to-beat-biden-151370

Bernie himself admits "it's a very steep road", so even he's not completely delusional. In the interest of wrapping things up he might drop sooner than we think. Hell, we all thought Tulsi would go to the convention.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/sanders-its-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road-to-beat-biden-151370

Bernie himself admits "it's a very steep road, so even he's not completely delusional. In the interest of wrapping things up he might drop sooner than we think. Hell, we all thought Tulsi would go to the convention.

I think he drops out if he loses New York

[brucejoel99]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/sanders-its-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road-to-beat-biden-151370

Bernie himself admits "it's a very steep road, so even he's not completely delusional. In the interest of wrapping things up he might drop sooner than we think. Hell, we all thought Tulsi would go to the convention.

Bernie needs to win an average of 63% in every state going forward. Not only is he losing in almost every state, he's only averaging ~35%.

That's more then a steep road. He needs Biden to literally die to stand a chance.

[SInNYC]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/sanders-its-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road-to-beat-biden-151370

Bernie himself admits "it's a very steep road, so even he's not completely delusional. In the interest of wrapping things up he might drop sooner than we think. Hell, we all thought Tulsi would go to the convention.

Bernie needs to win an average of 63% in every state going forward. Not only is he losing in almost every state, he's only averaging ~35%.

That's more then a steep road. He needs Biden to literally die to stand a chance.

Yes, but the thing is that it is not entirely far fetched that this happens (for either of them) given age and COV-19. I am quite confident that if the situation were reversed and it was Bernie that was walking away now, the usual suspects would be arguing that Biden should stay in in case Bernie died (though perhaps stated more diplomatically).

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/sanders-its-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road-to-beat-biden-151370

Bernie himself admits "it's a very steep road, so even he's not completely delusional. In the interest of wrapping things up he might drop sooner than we think. Hell, we all thought Tulsi would go to the convention.

I think he drops out if he loses New York

If he believes that there will be a New York primary, at least before June, then he is off his rocker.

[ShamDam]

He will drop out either when Biden hits 1991 delegates or after the final state has voted. He will definitely not hold out any longer than he did in 2016 -- especially now that the primary season is going later anyway.

Everyone who is foaming at the mouth for him to drop out needs to calm down. He's not gonna be the nominee, and there's no compelling evidence that him staying in the race will materially hurt Biden's chances at winning. Biden will win or lose the general on his own merits, and based on how this COVID-19 insanity plays out.

[DPKdebator]

Based on how Bernie’s reacting to the coronavirus situation it looks like he’s still got some fight left in him. Maybe he thinks this will give him a chance, but I doubt it. I think he’ll stay in the race until the convention.

[GeneralMacArthur]

https://twitter.com/melbournecoal/status/1243270202973970432

And just look how effective he's been at it thus far!

[blueandred]

He’s probably hoping that those June primaries will go well for him. The primary is kind of a standstill, anyway.

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/melbournecoal/status/1243270202973970432

And just look how effective he's been at it thus far!

"Hey guys, lets use this pandemic to remind everyone how right I was!"

Corbyn has been saying this same **** all week in a round of exit interview before he steps down next week. And all it's engendered outside of Twitter has been a round of eyerolls and muttered expletives.

[GeneralMacArthur]

He’s probably hoping that those June primaries will go well for him. The primary is kind of a standstill, anyway.

Yeah if he waits it out maybe one of his crazy supporters can say Biden kidnapped her daughter and sold her into sex slavery in a pizza shop basement.

Then the Sanders media would uncritically report on it and promote it, and just relentlessly spam social media until it gets mainstream attention.

After all, that seems to be the strategy now.

Or, wait for it, here's a better one.  Maybe there's a tsunami that hits Los Angeles, kills 100,000 people and causes tremendous economic and cultural damage.

While the other 99 senators are frantically writing legislation to repair the damage and rescue L.A., Bernie can grandstand on YouTube about how if we'd had the Green New Deal none of this would have happened.  Then at the last second threaten to block the bill for no good reason just to get attention.

That should get him the extra 30-40% he needs to win the primary, right?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1243574263094763521

[Lord Admirale]

I don't get it, he lost races that were his to lose (Maine, Massachusetts, Texas, Illinois) and there is a plague that is suspending elections across the country. Trump's been running a national campaign since 2017, the best thing for Bernie to do is drop out, endorse Biden, and let him run a national campaign.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

I don't think he wishes that Biden gets sick and dies from the coronavirus (no one does), but he is probably still in the race just in case that happens.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-says-hes-staying-in-the-presidential-race-many-democrats-fear-a-reprise-of-their-2016-defeat/2020/03/28/a6b8a8dc-7032-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html
Bernie Sanders says he’s staying in the presidential race. Many Democrats fear a reprise of their 2016 defeat.

Behind the growing fear among many Democrats that Sen. Bernie Sanders’s continued presence in the presidential race could spell doom in November is the belief that they’ve seen it happen before — in the last campaign.

The 2016 Democratic National Convention was just about to get started when Sanders (I-Vt.) addressed his delegates. It was time to support her, he told his backers. They disagreed, booing loudly. Some stuck their thumbs down as TV cameras captured the extraordinary show of dissent, which would continue on the convention floor.

To some Democrats in that campaign, it was a lesson learned the hard way about the limitations of Sanders’s promises of support and the ferocity of his unbridled backers. Four years later, with the senator still running against former vice president Joe Biden despite almost impossible odds of victory, some party leaders are increasingly worried about a reprise of the bitter divisions that many Democrats blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss.

“It’s the equivalent of a World War II kamikaze pilot,” said Philippe Reines, a longtime adviser to Clinton. “They have no better option than to plow into USS Biden.”

https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1245021009096384513

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

I'm not afraid at all of a 2016 reprise. Sanders isn't really drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary. Even if he was nobody is paying attention here; the 2016 primaries (both of them) were all-consuming media spectacles and for obvious reasons the 2020 primary post Mini Tuesday the opposite.

If anything Bernie is trying to use the campaign and the public health catastrophe to push Biden to the left, and he has a very good case for doing so.

[brucejoel99]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-says-hes-staying-in-the-presidential-race-many-democrats-fear-a-reprise-of-their-2016-defeat/2020/03/28/a6b8a8dc-7032-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html
Bernie Sanders says he’s staying in the presidential race. Many Democrats fear a reprise of their 2016 defeat.

Behind the growing fear among many Democrats that Sen. Bernie Sanders’s continued presence in the presidential race could spell doom in November is the belief that they’ve seen it happen before — in the last campaign.

The 2016 Democratic National Convention was just about to get started when Sanders (I-Vt.) addressed his delegates. It was time to support her, he told his backers. They disagreed, booing loudly. Some stuck their thumbs down as TV cameras captured the extraordinary show of dissent, which would continue on the convention floor.

To some Democrats in that campaign, it was a lesson learned the hard way about the limitations of Sanders’s promises of support and the ferocity of his unbridled backers. Four years later, with the senator still running against former vice president Joe Biden despite almost impossible odds of victory, some party leaders are increasingly worried about a reprise of the bitter divisions that many Democrats blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss.

“It’s the equivalent of a World War II kamikaze pilot,” said Philippe Reines, a longtime adviser to Clinton. “They have no better option than to plow into USS Biden.”

https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1245021009096384513

I just don't understand his sentiment. What is Bernie gonna accomplish in the next month or 2 with his message that he hasn't been able to achieve over the past 5 years of doing exactly that? For crying out loud, he's a sitting U.S. Senator; he already has a platform to continue to push his message. Staying in the race only sucks up the finite oxygen that Biden needs to be able to push his general election message. So instead, whenever the limited amount of coverage that isn't geared toward the pandemic is focused on the election, we'll get another 2 months of meaningless Democratic horse race coverage with lengthy exposes about how divided the party is. Well, yeah; no sh*t. Bernie isn't giving Biden the space to unify the party & his supporters are still clinging to a prayer that Bernie's still in it, all the while fostering resentment for the guy who blocked their hero's path to the Presidency.

I'm not afraid at all of a 2016 reprise. Sanders isn't really drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary. Even if he was nobody is paying attention here; the 2016 primaries (both of them) were all-consuming media spectacles and for obvious reasons the 2020 primary post Mini Tuesday the opposite.

If anything Bernie is trying to use the campaign and the public health catastrophe to push Biden to the left, and he has a very good case for doing so.

Eh, not "drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary" seems like it's independent of what the actual consequence will be. Running a no-chance campaign just to criticize Biden gives the signal that voters should be unhappy with Biden, & that's a lot of the same element that affected Hillary. Not only that, but his fleet of Twitter followers are parroting & ingraining all of the attacks that Trump will need to really undermine Biden to the point that they might as well just be stumping for Trump at this point.

[Fargobison]

I'm not afraid at all of a 2016 reprise. Sanders isn't really drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary. Even if he was nobody is paying attention here; the 2016 primaries (both of them) were all-consuming media spectacles and for obvious reasons the 2020 primary post Mini Tuesday the opposite.

If anything Bernie is trying to use the campaign and the public health catastrophe to push Biden to the left, and he has a very good case for doing so.

How is losing Wisconsin by 30 points going to push Biden left? He is doing more damage than good by staying in, there was a time for him to cash in his chips and that was a while ago. After each crushing defeat he is only going to lose more and more relevancy.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Eh, not "drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary" seems like it's independent of what the actual consequence will be. Running a no-chance campaign just to criticize Biden gives the signal that voters should be unhappy with Biden, & that's a lot of the same element that affected Hillary. Not only that, but his fleet of Twitter followers are parroting & ingraining all of the attacks that Trump will need to really undermine Biden to the point that they might as well just be stumping for Trump at this point.

Meh. I don't really think Sanders is going out of his way to criticize Biden, much less to tank his campaign. Most of his media right now is about promoting $15 minimum wage, M4A, etc. There's a chance it backfires in getting people who decided they would support Biden before March to stay home because they think he's not far enough left, but I think that's overstated.

Of course, campaign staff buffoons like Gray and Sirota are still trying to attack Biden and others, but at this point they're discrediting Sanders much more than they are harming Biden, and nobody is paying attention to them anyway.

Sanders is mostly getting drowned out by COVID coverage. Biden's is also getting drowned out by COVID, but that's his (campaign's) fault, not Sanders.

And the army of twitter trolls would be attacking Biden no matter what. Outside of 2008 and maybe 2012 these people never were reliable D voters, and the limited audience they are reaching is probably not persuadable. Even still the "bernie bro" media narrative has done enough to make sure that most of the people who these idiots do reach are more likely to treat them with derision than them points seriously.

How is losing Wisconsin by 30 points going to push Biden left? He is doing more damage than good by staying in, there was a time for him to cash in his chips and that was a while ago. After each crushing defeat he is only going to lose more and more relevancy.

Meh, I didn't say I thought it was a particularly effective strategy. Unsurprisingly, Elizabeth Warren is apparently doing much more to effectively push Biden left than Sanders is. But, Sanders is probably (rightly) concluding that within his style of politics, staying in the campaign will have a larger effect than sitting on the sidelines, even if the effect is marginal.

[Landslide Lyndon]

We must accept the fact that Bernie bros and Sanders's twitter trolls will continue to attack Biden even after their God Emperor King drops out. It's obvious by now that for these people the real enemy is the Democratic party and they are determined to do everything they can to see it lose in November.
If you think that people like Sirota and Nina Turner will come into the fold the moment Sanders concedes the nomination and endorses uncle Joe, you haven't been paying attention the last five years.

[Calthrina950]

Eh, not "drawing the same blood out of Biden that he drew from Hillary" seems like it's independent of what the actual consequence will be. Running a no-chance campaign just to criticize Biden gives the signal that voters should be unhappy with Biden, & that's a lot of the same element that affected Hillary. Not only that, but his fleet of Twitter followers are parroting & ingraining all of the attacks that Trump will need to really undermine Biden to the point that they might as well just be stumping for Trump at this point.

Meh. I don't really think Sanders is going out of his way to criticize Biden, much less to tank his campaign. Most of his media right now is about promoting $15 minimum wage, M4A, etc. There's a chance it backfires in getting people who decided they would support Biden before March to stay home because they think he's not far enough left, but I think that's overstated.

Of course, campaign staff buffoons like Gray and Sirota are still trying to attack Biden and others, but at this point they're discrediting Sanders much more than they are harming Biden, and nobody is paying attention to them anyway.

Sanders is mostly getting drowned out by COVID coverage. Biden's is also getting drowned out by COVID, but that's his (campaign's) fault, not Sanders.

And the army of twitter trolls would be attacking Biden no matter what. Outside of 2008 and maybe 2012 these people never were reliable D voters, and the limited audience they are reaching is probably not persuadable. Even still the "bernie bro" media narrative has done enough to make sure that most of the people who these idiots do reach are more likely to treat them with derision than them points seriously.

How is losing Wisconsin by 30 points going to push Biden left? He is doing more damage than good by staying in, there was a time for him to cash in his chips and that was a while ago. After each crushing defeat he is only going to lose more and more relevancy.

Meh, I didn't say I thought it was a particularly effective strategy. Unsurprisingly, Elizabeth Warren is apparently doing much more to effectively push Biden left than Sanders is. But, Sanders is probably (rightly) concluding that within his style of politics, staying in the campaign will have a larger effect than sitting on the sidelines, even if the effect is marginal.

I certainly wouldn't fault Sanders for wanting to promote his policy viewpoints, but his staying in the race seems to be a suicidal mission to me, at this point. His staying in until the Convention provides no benefit for the Party as a whole, or for its prospects in the general election. However, just because Sanders has decided to stay in doesn't mean that Biden has to give him the light of day. Biden will probably just ignore or downplay Sanders for the rest of the campaign.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I'm sure his press secretary being a distasteful troll on Twitter will propel him to victory.

https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1245446638367375360

https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1245063983670968322

https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1245026617468104708

https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1244789642777571328