How long does Michael Madigan reign IL House and IL Democratic Party?

[Suburbia]

Govs. Rod Blagojevich, Pat Quinn, Bruce Rauner and J.B. Pritzker are not the kings of Illinois.

Illinois House Speaker and IL Democratic Party Chairman Michael Madigan is.

He is the equivalent of Philadelphia's Bob Brady or another white ethnic machine politician.

Do you like him?

How long does he have left?

Who is his successor?

[President Johnson]

Until he dies.

[Suburbia]

Until he dies.

Damn.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

[President Johnson]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

[Free Bird]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

He was in the legislature too. He could, but I wouldn't be shocked if Madigan had some sort of dirt on him.

[MaxQue]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

You should know for him 8 years in office that Obama never took on the corrupt party establishment.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

He was in the legislature too. He could, but I wouldn't be shocked if Madigan had some sort of dirt on him.

Obama’s political career is over , so it’s not like that could be used as leverage against him

[brucejoel99]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

He was in the legislature too. He could, but I wouldn't be shocked if Madigan had some sort of dirt on him.

Obama’s political career is over , so it’s not like that could be used as leverage against him

Ask Bill Clinton about how the concept of 'one's legacy can never go downhill after their political career ends' worked out for him.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

Madigan is far more powerful than Obama in IL

[Mr. Smith]

Until Lisa is groomed well enough to take over or death doth he part.

[Suburbia]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

In a sense, both are powerful. Obama advised Mayor Emanuel not to run for a third term as Chicago mayor. The Daley-Emanuel machine neutered in a sense.
Madigan is far more powerful than Obama in IL

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

Obama would not throw a member of the machine under the bus. Especially not someone as cutthroat as Madigan.

Democrats can complain all they want about Madigan, but you can’t deny the guy is very effective.

[Donerail]

Until Lisa is groomed well enough to take over or death doth he part.

Lisa won't be taking over the legislature. It'll go to a fairly anonymous state rep. There is a misunderstanding here in how the system functions — Madigan runs it, and he has been extremely effective and competent in doing so, but it's built on ward organizations and, ultimately, individual precinct workers. Put someone else on top of it, and it'll keep chugging along all the same.

Madigan leaves when either he or God wants him to, and not a second before.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Madigan is the Daley of Illinois politics and spearheaded Obama's rise to politics, he is gonna be there forever

[Blair]

I don't know what's more naive- expecting Obama to launch a primary bid against Madigan or expecting that it would make a difference.

Do people really think getting rid of Madigan would clean up all of Illinois problems?

[Continential]

Hopefully somebody tries to primary Michael Madigan. Bonus if a Talk electioner does.

[Former President tack50]

Obama could personally primary Madigan and he would still lose badly.

[Orwell]

Obama could personally primary Madigan and he would still lose badly.

"It seems very strange President Obama didn't get any votes in this precinct"

[Suburbia]

I don't know what's more naive- expecting Obama to launch a primary bid against Madigan or expecting that it would make a difference.

Do people really think getting rid of Madigan would clean up all of Illinois problems?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

Madigan is far more powerful than Obama in IL

What could Madigan to do match the publicity an Obama endorsement would get. I bet far far more people know who Obama is than Madigan and Madigan's primary challenger would put the fact that they were endorsed by Obama in every Ad.


Also Bush was able to use his popularity to take down Tom Murphy in Georgia so why cant Obama do the same thing to Madigan

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Because if you mess with the Madigans you get the Blago treatment. Blago crossed Madigan and didnt appoint Lisa Madigan to the Senate seat instead of Jesse Jackson Jr; consequently, along with Judy Baar Topinka,'s help, Blago was thrown in jail, by Madigans

Dont mess with the Madigans

[Blair]

Why doenst Obama just end his career by endorsing a primary challanger to Madigan. Bush in 2002 basically ended the career of Georgia version of Mike Madigan due to his popularity and that was in a general election.

In a Dem primary Obama could end Madigan career if he wanted to

I agree. Obama should take this guy out. He's a corrupt crook.

Madigan is far more powerful than Obama in IL

What could Madigan to do match the publicity an Obama endorsement would get. I bet far far more people know who Obama is than Madigan and Madigan's primary challenger would put the fact that they were endorsed by Obama in every Ad.


Also Bush was able to use his popularity to take down Tom Murphy in Georgia so why cant Obama do the same thing to Madigan

This isn't how local politics works.

[Intell]

Madigan influence>>>>>Obama's.

[Donerail]

What could Madigan to do match the publicity an Obama endorsement would get. I bet far far more people know who Obama is than Madigan and Madigan's primary challenger would put the fact that they were endorsed by Obama in every Ad.

Sure, but Mike Madigan could say that he's endorsed by Mike Madigan. And that matters more.