Italian priest with COVID gives up his ventillator to younger patient, dies
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« on: March 24, 2020, 11:30:25 AM »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italian-priest-respirator-younger-patient-italy-bergamo-a9420976.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52015969

I have to imagine he'll be canonized within a few years.
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2020, 12:03:07 PM »

For canonization, isn't it necessary that a miracle be performed by the prospective Saint?
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2020, 12:46:24 PM »

It was a selfless act to make good of a well intentioned but probably questionable one to the priest himself (the community buying a respirator specifically for their parish priest.)
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2020, 01:23:08 PM »

For canonization, isn't it necessary that a miracle be performed by the prospective Saint?

Yes, but those aren't usually identified until much later and include miracles performed after death via intercessory prayer.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2020, 01:33:22 PM »

For canonization, isn't it necessary that a miracle be performed by the prospective Saint?

They take a nice long while after these people die, which gives them the opportunity to fabricate something.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2020, 01:48:19 PM »

A hero. RIP FF Purple heart
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2020, 02:01:32 PM »

Well even I did the thing I shouldn't do in situations like this;

https://cruxnow.com/covid-19/2020/03/fake-news-aside-friend-says-priest-dead-of-coronavirus-was-still-a-special-person/

'In reality, said Giuseppe Foresti, sacristan of Berardelli’s parish of St. John the Baptist in Casnigo, about 15 miles from Bergamo in northern Italy, the elderly priest simply couldn’t tolerate the ventilator, in part because of preexisting health conditions, and refused to use it.

Foresti emphasized that doesn’t make Berardelli any less of a role model.'
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2020, 03:38:04 PM »

Heartbreaking. Rest in peace, freedom fighter!
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2020, 03:56:54 PM »

Well even I did the thing I shouldn't do in situations like this;

https://cruxnow.com/covid-19/2020/03/fake-news-aside-friend-says-priest-dead-of-coronavirus-was-still-a-special-person/

'In reality, said Giuseppe Foresti, sacristan of Berardelli’s parish of St. John the Baptist in Casnigo, about 15 miles from Bergamo in northern Italy, the elderly priest simply couldn’t tolerate the ventilator, in part because of preexisting health conditions, and refused to use it.

Foresti emphasized that doesn’t make Berardelli any less of a role model.'

It seems we don't have the complete story as the medical personnel can't provide any official information (and the article also doesn't state how Foresti knows what did or didn't happen), but it's fully possible the initial reporting could've been exaggerated. People are longing for heroes in times like these. Either way, RIP.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2020, 04:09:32 PM »

Well even I did the thing I shouldn't do in situations like this;

https://cruxnow.com/covid-19/2020/03/fake-news-aside-friend-says-priest-dead-of-coronavirus-was-still-a-special-person/

'In reality, said Giuseppe Foresti, sacristan of Berardelli’s parish of St. John the Baptist in Casnigo, about 15 miles from Bergamo in northern Italy, the elderly priest simply couldn’t tolerate the ventilator, in part because of preexisting health conditions, and refused to use it.

Foresti emphasized that doesn’t make Berardelli any less of a role model.'

It seems we don't have the complete story as the medical personnel can't provide any official information (and the article also doesn't state how Foresti knows what did or didn't happen), but it's fully possible the initial reporting could've been exaggerated. People are longing for heroes in times like these. Either way, RIP.

Oh absolutely. I think the elderly refusing respirators at a certain point is probably already under-reported. They may be making that choice (before it is made for them in some instances) for a variety of emotional and deeply personal reasons.

I think if the priest had a cognitive choice in this matter as I alluded to earlier, he may have done so because of a quiet need to 'make good' what he perceived to be misplaced act of concern/charity from his parishioners. Which in itself is extremely selfless and noble.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2020, 06:30:48 PM »

For canonization, isn't it necessary that a miracle be performed by the prospective Saint?

If you're looking for one, you'll always "find" it (doesn't believe in miracles).

Nevetheless, I can't consider his act as anything other than praiseworthy.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 07:09:29 PM »

For canonization, isn't it necessary that a miracle be performed by the prospective Saint?

They take a nice long while after these people die, which gives them the opportunity to fabricate something.
That seems excessively cynical to me.  Even if you hold that most (or even) all miracles are false, that doesn't require they be deliberately faked.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 08:39:25 PM »

A true FF. A martyr of charity. Rest In Peace father.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2020, 08:41:15 PM »

A true FF. A martyr of charity. Rest In Peace father.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 11:56:04 AM »

very noble!
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2020, 01:21:56 PM »

Good. This priest is a hero and will be rewarded in the afterlife.
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2020, 03:18:32 AM »

If there's a heaven, he belongs there.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2020, 03:27:14 PM »

A true Christian. God bless him.
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2020, 10:47:46 AM »

Sad

RIP FF
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