Minor Party Primaries Results and Discussion

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Abramson is a Democrat now

Well that's interesting.

I wonder if Chafee will do better in places he is actually on the ballot?

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Chafee could have been the anointed former GOP politician to be the Libertarian nominee, but I guess they wanted a turn back to ideological clarity instead of tactical electability.

I still have hopes that he will surge where he is actually on the ballot.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what the status of the Libertarian Ohio primary is?

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Isn't it too late by now?

Admittedly I am not too versed in the delegate selection for the Libertarian Convention.

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This may be a rude/offensive question, but are no-hope perennial candidates “all there?” People like De La Fuente, who keep running over and over again and always lose or other candidates who know they will get no where. Are they just too narcissistic/egotistic to check themselves? Or are they literally delusional?

I think there are some that are sane.  Some of the American Solidarity people do.  I think a lot of the far-left parties nominate people that know they have no chance, but do it anyway to rail against the current establishment.

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I think there are some that are sane.  Some of the American Solidarity people do.  I think a lot of the far-left parties nominate people that know they have no chance, but do it anyway to rail against the current establishment.

I have to disagree with this logic, especially now. With the two main leftist electoral tickets, they’re picking candidates that have wide reach and/or are representative of their beliefs.

Both Howie Hawkins and Angela Nicole Walker are trade unionists and have been apart of local campaigns beforehand. Howie Hawkins is an interesting figure in that his folksy accent and him being a Vietnam War veteran and a socialist is a glaring good electoral sign. He’s consistent and a veteran, something a lot of people admire, especially many WWC members for the last part. He’s also, imo, a very easy figure to cast as a “green Bernie” for disaffected voters from the Bernie camp in 2016 and 2020 much more then Jill Stein ever will be. Angela Nicole Walker than is a good balance as a female African American VP known in her pivotal home state of Wisconsin and now Florida. By all accounts, this is a much stronger ticket then a one-note politician, the new age loon known as Jill Stein and her irrelevant academic VP in 2016. Perfect for picking up the still-angry Bernie Sanders voters yet having the street cred for a traditional ticket of the Left.

On the Gloria La Riva/Leonard Peltier ticket, they’re definitely attracting a certain demographic as a ticket. Gloria La Riva has apparently good connections with the PFP and LUP to get on their tickets, and her past as a union member and A.N.S.W.E.R. activist has made her a and her party a known figure for better or worse. Leonard Peltier is a political prisoner and an AIM activist, perfect for what kind of voters this ticket is trying to acquire. This is not a ticket meant for wider audiences, and it’s obvious what route the PSL and Gloria La Riva are vying for. The PSL views itself as a vanguard party for orthodox revolutionary Marxist-Leninism, and in their minds an increase in votes on their permanent platform shows how solidified and successful they’ve done.

So yeah, for what they are, the Leftist tickets are obviously vying for a certain demographic of voters most likely to vote for them, and for Left-wing third parties trying to go for mass appeal is fools gold given voting patterns don’t allow for a #NeverSocialism or #NeverDemocrats centre-right demographic that votes Libertarian to even exist for these tickets.

I think we agree on this if I'm understanding your argument correctly.  I don't believe La Riva or Hawkins actually think they are going to  be President, but are running either to bring their views to a wider audience or to give people that align with them an option they can vote for.

There are some third party/independent candidates that I actually think believe they have a chance.

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So the Reform Party (which has ballot access in Florida and Mississippi) elected new officers on Saturday. The Committee Secretary defeated the incumbent Chairman. The convention was then adjourned as delegates apparently were not aware they had more choices than just Rocky De La Fuente to nominate for president. So they'll have a 60-to-90-minute Q-and-A session with the 4 people seeking their nomination, one each night this week. These will be streamed online and recorded, public allowed to view. All sessions beginning at 8pm. The convention will reseat this coming Saturday at June 20th where they will select the presidential ticket.

Tuesday - Ben Zion
Wednesday - Rocky De La Fuente
Thursday - Souraya Faas
Friday - Max Abramson

The Alliance Party had listed the Reform Party of Florida as an affiliate on its website, and that has since been removed.

Not that I know the political leanings of Reform Party national delegates, but my guess is De La Fuente or Abramson as the 2 most credible options.

Interestingly, Ben Zion is no longer the head of the Transhumanist ticket.

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The Reform Party, along with the oddly comparatively sane few state chapters of the Constitution party, need to either close up shop or merge with the Alliance party. The era of Ross Perot or the other various personalities making up the Reform party has been dead for 15 years at best, and they’re political dinosaurs with no real base anymore but old timey populism. At least the Alliance party has a better defined platform and isn’t as much of a one-man band tagged along with interesting local personalities.

I kind of figure that's the hope for some, considering the party's most recent gubernatorial nominee in Florida is the Alliance Party's VP nominee.

I'll give the party credit, the candidate Q&A throughout this week is better than what 3rd parties not named the Greens or Libertarians do.

And perhaps better than the Greens considering one of their candidates likes wearing a piece of paper saying "Love Live the Syrian Arab Republic"...