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« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2020, 04:24:41 PM »

Interestingly, Ben Zion is no longer the head of the Transhumanist ticket.

what the hell happened?

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The USTP hereby confirms the departure of Johannon Ben Zion (J. Ben Zion) from our organization. As the USTP and several other groups combined and reorganized, Mr. Ben Zion found himself better aligned with a more directly techno-progressive platform and has opted to head that initiative, leaving his capable running-mate as the USTP’s candidate. Accordingly, the Officers of the USTP have determined to release Mr. Ben Zion from any of his roles and affiliations with the USTP, as well as from any previous endorsements by the USTP.

I like how now the Reform Party has been reduced to the destination of also-rans from the Libertarian Party and the Transhuman Party. Just give it to Rocky de la Fuente and the Alliance Party as an affiliate.
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« Reply #101 on: June 18, 2020, 08:16:01 PM »

The Reform Party, along with the oddly comparatively sane few state chapters of the Constitution party, need to either close up shop or merge with the Alliance party. The era of Ross Perot or the other various personalities making up the Reform party has been dead for 15 years at best, and they’re political dinosaurs with no real base anymore but old timey populism. At least the Alliance party has a better defined platform and isn’t as much of a one-man band tagged along with interesting local personalities.
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« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2020, 06:38:04 AM »

Interestingly, Ben Zion is no longer the head of the Transhumanist ticket.

what the hell happened?

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The USTP hereby confirms the departure of Johannon Ben Zion (J. Ben Zion) from our organization. As the USTP and several other groups combined and reorganized, Mr. Ben Zion found himself better aligned with a more directly techno-progressive platform and has opted to head that initiative, leaving his capable running-mate as the USTP’s candidate. Accordingly, the Officers of the USTP have determined to release Mr. Ben Zion from any of his roles and affiliations with the USTP, as well as from any previous endorsements by the USTP.

I like how now the Reform Party has been reduced to the destination of also-rans from the Libertarian Party and the Transhuman Party. Just give it to Rocky de la Fuente and the Alliance Party as an affiliate.

I was completely unaware of Transhumanism as a political philosophy before this.
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« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2020, 06:40:07 AM »
« Edited: June 19, 2020, 06:46:02 AM by StateBoiler »

The Reform Party, along with the oddly comparatively sane few state chapters of the Constitution party, need to either close up shop or merge with the Alliance party. The era of Ross Perot or the other various personalities making up the Reform party has been dead for 15 years at best, and they’re political dinosaurs with no real base anymore but old timey populism. At least the Alliance party has a better defined platform and isn’t as much of a one-man band tagged along with interesting local personalities.

I kind of figure that's the hope for some, considering the party's most recent gubernatorial nominee in Florida is the Alliance Party's VP nominee.

I'll give the party credit, the candidate Q&A throughout this week is better than what 3rd parties not named the Greens or Libertarians do.
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« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2020, 09:13:37 AM »

The Reform Party, along with the oddly comparatively sane few state chapters of the Constitution party, need to either close up shop or merge with the Alliance party. The era of Ross Perot or the other various personalities making up the Reform party has been dead for 15 years at best, and they’re political dinosaurs with no real base anymore but old timey populism. At least the Alliance party has a better defined platform and isn’t as much of a one-man band tagged along with interesting local personalities.

I kind of figure that's the hope for some, considering the party's most recent gubernatorial nominee in Florida is the Alliance Party's VP nominee.

I'll give the party credit, the candidate Q&A throughout this week is better than what 3rd parties not named the Greens or Libertarians do.
And perhaps better than the Greens considering one of their candidates likes wearing a piece of paper saying "Love Live the Syrian Arab Republic"...
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« Reply #105 on: June 19, 2020, 12:07:52 PM »

The Reform Party, along with the oddly comparatively sane few state chapters of the Constitution party, need to either close up shop or merge with the Alliance party. The era of Ross Perot or the other various personalities making up the Reform party has been dead for 15 years at best, and they’re political dinosaurs with no real base anymore but old timey populism. At least the Alliance party has a better defined platform and isn’t as much of a one-man band tagged along with interesting local personalities.

I kind of figure that's the hope for some, considering the party's most recent gubernatorial nominee in Florida is the Alliance Party's VP nominee.

I'll give the party credit, the candidate Q&A throughout this week is better than what 3rd parties not named the Greens or Libertarians do.
And perhaps better than the Greens considering one of their candidates likes wearing a piece of paper saying "Love Live the Syrian Arab Republic"...
Ba’athist Rolde only got 6% of the primary vote. He’s already a nonfactor.
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« Reply #106 on: June 20, 2020, 05:24:26 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: June 20, 2020, 05:26:50 PM »

Reform Party delegate vote was:

De La Fuente: 17
Abramson: 4
Zion: 1
Faas: withdrew
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« Reply #108 on: June 20, 2020, 05:30:21 PM »

Reform Party delegate vote was:

De La Fuente: 17
Abramson: 4
Zion: 1
Faas: withdrew

I see that the whole Reform Party membership turned out. Quite amazing
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« Reply #109 on: June 20, 2020, 05:38:37 PM »

So this is the end of the primaries for third parties, really the only thing left is for the nominee apparent in the Green Party to be declared so in the upcoming GNC.

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« Reply #110 on: June 20, 2020, 05:48:50 PM »

So this is the end of the primaries for third parties, really the only thing left is for the nominee apparent in the Green Party to be declared so in the upcoming GNC.



The Veterans' Party still haven't picked their nominee yet (perhaps Max Abramson will win his 3rd bid in a minor party after losing the Libertarian and Reform nominations), but otherwise, this seems to be it among 3rd parties with ballot access.
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« Reply #111 on: June 20, 2020, 06:00:35 PM »

So this is the end of the primaries for third parties, really the only thing left is for the nominee apparent in the Green Party to be declared so in the upcoming GNC.



The Veterans' Party still haven't picked their nominee yet (perhaps Max Abramson will win his 3rd bid in a minor party after losing the Libertarian and Reform nominations), but otherwise, this seems to be it among 3rd parties with ballot access.
What even is the veterans party
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« Reply #112 on: June 20, 2020, 09:36:58 PM »

So this is the end of the primaries for third parties, really the only thing left is for the nominee apparent in the Green Party to be declared so in the upcoming GNC.

American Independent Party of California. The various parties in New York.
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« Reply #113 on: July 02, 2020, 12:19:50 AM »

Things are heating up before the Green National Convention
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« Reply #114 on: July 02, 2020, 06:40:25 AM »

Bring back the anti Masonic ticket
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« Reply #115 on: July 06, 2020, 09:20:18 AM »


Greens have primaries. They have delegates assigned based on those. Hawkins has won most all of them. Nice Mr. Hunter wants his 5 minutes of time but based on the rules Hawkins has pretty much won their nomination. #READ THE F-ING RULES

La Riva looks to have gained ballot access in New Mexico. The party though might have lost their Florida ballot access.
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« Reply #116 on: July 06, 2020, 09:37:11 AM »

Because I’ve seen so many people on Twitter and Facebook from my age group posting about Jorgensen, I’m going to start giving periodic weekly updates on her Facebook likes (a skewed measure for sure, but somewhat relevant in terms of reach).
7/6, as of 9:30 AM: 225,454
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« Reply #117 on: July 06, 2020, 09:43:45 AM »

Because I’ve seen so many people on Twitter and Facebook from my age group posting about Jorgensen, I’m going to start giving periodic weekly updates on her Facebook likes (a skewed measure for sure, but somewhat relevant in terms of reach).
7/6, as of 9:30 AM: 225,454

Just out of curiosity how old are you? Because I haven't seen ANYONE in my age group even know she exists.
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« Reply #118 on: July 06, 2020, 10:01:16 AM »

Because I’ve seen so many people on Twitter and Facebook from my age group posting about Jorgensen, I’m going to start giving periodic weekly updates on her Facebook likes (a skewed measure for sure, but somewhat relevant in terms of reach).
7/6, as of 9:30 AM: 225,454

Just out of curiosity how old are you? Because I haven't seen ANYONE in my age group even know she exists.

I'm not the person you responded to, but outside of me going to LP-specific media/sites, I've seen one person on my Facebook timeline say they were backing Jorgensen.
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« Reply #119 on: July 06, 2020, 10:49:51 AM »

Because I’ve seen so many people on Twitter and Facebook from my age group posting about Jorgensen, I’m going to start giving periodic weekly updates on her Facebook likes (a skewed measure for sure, but somewhat relevant in terms of reach).
7/6, as of 9:30 AM: 225,454

Just out of curiosity how old are you? Because I haven't seen ANYONE in my age group even know she exists.
I’m 24, and all of the people I’ve seen on my lists like her page are between ages 19-23.
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« Reply #120 on: July 06, 2020, 10:58:38 AM »

I know this is anecdotal being its one person’s social media friends, but the big Jo people are generally non college educated, extremely fiscally conservative, but pretty socially moderate/liberal. Many of them voted for Trump in 2016, although a few couldn’t.
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« Reply #121 on: July 06, 2020, 03:19:50 PM »

Bring back the anti Masonic ticket

Gotta find a Mason to run on the ticket first.
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« Reply #122 on: July 06, 2020, 04:57:17 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2020, 05:02:41 PM by Priest of Moloch »

Well I'm 22 and I haven't seen a single post about whoever this lady is. I do have one FB friend who is very into Gloria La Riva though!
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« Reply #123 on: July 06, 2020, 05:11:56 PM »

Why did the reform party nominate a joke like Rocky over an actual state representative?
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« Reply #124 on: July 06, 2020, 05:25:47 PM »

Why did the reform party nominate a joke like Rocky over an actual state representative?

He has lots of money and has been active in the third party scene for years. Also that state representative couldn't even hack it as a major Libertarian Party candidate and has resorted to running for the nom of the Veterans Party.

So this is the end of the primaries for third parties, really the only thing left is for the nominee apparent in the Green Party to be declared so in the upcoming GNC.



The Veterans' Party still haven't picked their nominee yet (perhaps Max Abramson will win his 3rd bid in a minor party after losing the Libertarian and Reform nominations), but otherwise, this seems to be it among 3rd parties with ballot access.
What even is the veterans party

Rational Wiki seems to be the only place that has attempted to answer that question.

I feel like at this point they're just a collection of Facebook groups and P.O. Boxes that exist to siphon off votes from disaffected low-information voters who think, "Veterans? Well I support veterans."
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