Wisconsin (PPP): Biden, Sanders Lead Trump
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« on: March 12, 2020, 06:54:26 AM »

Biden 48
Trump 45

Sanders 48
Trump 46

Trump approval: 45/51 (-6)

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/biden-has-substantial-leads-in-key-sanders-2016-states/

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2020, 06:56:34 AM »

Also important:

Wisconsin and Kansas both exemplify something PPP has found repeatedly in its general election polling- almost all of the undecideds are Democratic leaning voters who hate Trump but either support Biden and are reluctant to vote for Sanders in the general or support Sanders and are reluctant to vote for Biden in the general.

In Wisconsin the undecideds in Biden/Trump give Trump a 7-69 approval rating and support Sanders 52/11. If they ended up voting based on their Trump approval Biden would be ahead by 7 and if they voted the same way they did in the match up with Sanders, Biden would be ahead by 6. The undecideds in Sanders/Trump give Trump at 7-67 approval rating and support Biden 61/5. If they ended up voting based on their Trump approval Sanders would be ahead by 6 and if they voted the same way they did in the match up with Biden, Sanders would also be ahead by 6. With a little more party unity the race in Wisconsin wouldn’t even be terribly close and Trump’s path to reelection would be just about closed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2020, 06:57:48 AM »

PPP Poll! Enough said!
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2020, 07:08:47 AM »

About time, Biden will win WI
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2020, 07:16:47 AM »

It'll be within 2-3 points either way. Just because the polls were 7 points off in 2016 doesn't mean they will be this time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2020, 08:36:59 AM »


Yep, it means high quality!
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2020, 04:56:31 PM »

PPP polls are more worthless than internals
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2020, 05:51:23 PM »

Psh, more like DDD! Unskew this at least six points toward Trump, and add another seven for good measure (because polls were wrong in WI in 2016!!!!!) and then you’ll get a better picture of Titanium Lean R WI. Definitely less likely to flip than IA.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2020, 06:51:19 PM »

These numbers could be better but I refuse to believe that just because Iowa looks like a lost cause that it somehow means Wisconsin is too. Democrats cannot neglect this state.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2020, 05:22:32 AM »

Also important:

Wisconsin and Kansas both exemplify something PPP has found repeatedly in its general election polling- almost all of the undecideds are Democratic leaning voters who hate Trump but either support Biden and are reluctant to vote for Sanders in the general or support Sanders and are reluctant to vote for Biden in the general.

In Wisconsin the undecideds in Biden/Trump give Trump a 7-69 approval rating and support Sanders 52/11. If they ended up voting based on their Trump approval Biden would be ahead by 7 and if they voted the same way they did in the match up with Sanders, Biden would be ahead by 6. The undecideds in Sanders/Trump give Trump at 7-67 approval rating and support Biden 61/5. If they ended up voting based on their Trump approval Sanders would be ahead by 6 and if they voted the same way they did in the match up with Biden, Sanders would also be ahead by 6. With a little more party unity the race in Wisconsin wouldn’t even be terribly close and Trump’s path to reelection would be just about closed.
Yeah, I have been saying this all along. If Democrats stick together and get out the vote, then we win and we win easily. There are simply more of us than there are of them. They win by having better turnout, having an electoral system that favours them and by actively using voter suppression.
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