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« Reply #400 on: March 10, 2020, 08:35:38 PM »

Biden has the yuppie limousine liberal vote. He is going to get destroyed with WWC maybe even worse than Hillary.

Says the hundreds of rural counties and millions of rural voters that have already casted ballots for Biden.
He won't do that in November. You're in for a rude awakening when Trump wins MI again.
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« Reply #401 on: March 10, 2020, 08:36:19 PM »

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« Reply #402 on: March 10, 2020, 08:36:58 PM »

Yang endorsing Biden live.
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« Reply #403 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:08 PM »

Yang endorses Biden.
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« Reply #404 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:14 PM »

Andrew Yand endorses Joe Biden.
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« Reply #405 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:27 PM »

have any of the networks/analysts discussed turnout, particularly in Michigan?
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« Reply #406 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:38 PM »

Whelp. My dreams of a competitive PA primary are gone... again.

We may not even really have a vote in PA... at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders drops out by then
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« Reply #407 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:38 PM »

Yang endorses Biden !!!!!
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« Reply #408 on: March 10, 2020, 08:37:51 PM »

Dems can't win alienating a third of their party. This primary is going to be really hard for Sanders supporters.
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« Reply #409 on: March 10, 2020, 08:38:25 PM »

FF YANG
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« Reply #410 on: March 10, 2020, 08:38:45 PM »

Sigh.  So much for Indiana being competitive on May 5...
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« Reply #411 on: March 10, 2020, 08:38:49 PM »

Biden has the yuppie limousine liberal vote. He is going to get destroyed with WWC maybe even worse than Hillary.

Says the hundreds of rural counties and millions of rural voters that have already casted ballots for Biden.
He won't do that in November. You're in for a rude awakening when Trump wins MI again.

I remember last time you were so confident about an election result, Democrats ended up winning two governors mansions in dark red states
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« Reply #412 on: March 10, 2020, 08:39:03 PM »

Bernie is below viability again in MS.
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« Reply #413 on: March 10, 2020, 08:39:17 PM »

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« Reply #414 on: March 10, 2020, 08:39:32 PM »



He says this endorsement comes because the math isn't there for Sanders.
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« Reply #415 on: March 10, 2020, 08:39:54 PM »

Dems can't win alienating a third of their party. This primary is going to be really hard for Sanders supporters.

no one is alienating sanders supporters.
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« Reply #416 on: March 10, 2020, 08:40:26 PM »

have any of the networks/analysts discussed turnout, particularly in Michigan?

saw a few tweets about it will likely end up considerably higher than 2016
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« Reply #417 on: March 10, 2020, 08:40:35 PM »

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« Reply #418 on: March 10, 2020, 08:40:44 PM »

Biden has the yuppie limousine liberal vote. He is going to get destroyed with WWC maybe even worse than Hillary.

Says the hundreds of rural counties and millions of rural voters that have already casted ballots for Biden.
He won't do that in November. You're in for a rude awakening when Trump wins MI again.

I remember last time you were so confident about an election result, Democrats ended up winning two governors mansions in dark red states
I remember in 2016 when family members and friends laughed at me when I said Trump would win.
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« Reply #419 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:03 PM »

Dems can't win alienating a third of their party. This primary is going to be really hard for Sanders supporters.

no one is alienating sanders supporters.

Except for Biden himself and basically every Biden supporter who are telling us they don’t want our votes?
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« Reply #420 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:18 PM »

Bernie is below viability again in MS.
He seems to be in trouble in the 3rd CD as well.
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« Reply #421 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:33 PM »

have any of the networks/analysts discussed turnout, particularly in Michigan?

saw a few tweets about it will likely end up considerably higher than 2016

thanks, and great news.
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« Reply #422 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:40 PM »

He says this endorsement comes because the math isn't there for Sanders.

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« Reply #423 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:54 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2020, 08:47:41 PM by BP🌹 »

Sounds like it's time for Bernie to drop the "Democratic" part from his "Democratic Socialist" self-identification. Liberal democracy never was and never could be a path towards socialism.

Scandinavia says hi.

Scandinavian countries aren't socialist. They are mixed market economies like every other developed economy; they simply have had a more successful labor movement that effectively affected change in society and government policies (which have been slowly deconstructed by the interests of capital and their representatives over the past several decades).

So wait. You're advocating socialism greater extent than Scandinavian countries? As in full-on planned economies?
There are many varieties of socialism (real socialism) that don't involve central planning.
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« Reply #424 on: March 10, 2020, 08:41:59 PM »

Well, I hope that the Democrats voting based on "electability" are right about Biden. I really do. If they're not, they'll have a ton to answer for, and we're all screwed.

The worst part about if Biden loses is the never-ending I told you so's from Bernie supporters. It is entirely possible that Biden can lose, notwithstanding being arguably the most electable candidate the Democrats put forward this year. The difference is that oh wow Biden still has a course a decent chance to lose, the odds would have arguably been much greater with Sanders.

One Golden Rule of politics is never based general election Performance Off primary performance, there is something to be said about Sanders failure 2 ignite enough enthusiasm behind his candidacy to be successful displays his shortcomings as a general election candidate. The entire premise of Bernie's tendency is his staunchly left wing Social Democratic policies wood inspire voters normally disengage with the political process to turn out for a change and sweep him to victory in November. However, if he couldn't get those potential voters to engage and show up in sufficient numbers during the primaries for him to win the nomination, or frankly at this point even come close, then it's pretty apparent that wasn't about to happen during the general election either.

So yeah, I'll say it now is a Biden supporter. He is the most electable candidate, and his odds of losing to Trump are currently still at least approaching 50/50. With about 45 46% of the vote absolutely baked in for Trump even if he eats a baby on live TV, plus the economy still doing well up until the recent coronavirus crisis, which personally I suspect the effects of with will be long over by , then add on the inherent Advantage Trump gets out of the Electoral College, and Biden is simply our best-case scenario. Anyone looking for a Sherlock in the general election can teleport back to 1964.
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