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« on: March 05, 2020, 09:02:57 AM »

Arizona: PPP, March 2-3, 666 RV

Trump approval: 45/51

Biden 48, Trump 47
Trump 47, Sanders 46


Maine: PPP, March 2-3, 672 RV

Trump approval: 42/56

Biden 52, Trump 42
Sanders 52, Trump 42
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2020, 09:18:38 AM »

Sara Gideon + 4(!!!) is the big headline here
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2020, 09:28:15 AM »

Please make a separate thread for each poll
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2020, 09:28:44 AM »

Incumbent R Senators Collins and McSally have abysmal approval numbers and seem to be going down to defeat.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2020, 09:30:10 AM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2020, 09:38:12 AM »

The pieces of the puzzle are there for a big victory.   We just need to fit them together.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 09:41:39 AM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that President Donald Trump would be a thing. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 10:25:18 AM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that President Donald Trump would be a thing. 

Even 2014. And that AL would have a Dem senator.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2020, 11:03:21 AM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that President Donald Trump would be a thing. 

Imagine telling someone in 1995 that the 2016 Presidential election would be between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2020, 11:44:57 AM »

Was Maine's 2016 margin a fluke?
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 11:51:31 AM »

The fact that Maine is in double-digits is something.  Biden might be able to pick up ME-02, and Jared Golden would also hold on in such a scenario.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 12:36:13 PM »

Susan Collins approval rating -24 (!!!!!!!)

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2020, 05:44:12 PM »

In 538 they added this poll as one with 872   V[oters]. What does it mean? RV, LV or something in between?
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2020, 07:48:51 PM »

Was Maine's 2016 margin a fluke?

I'm hoping that entire election was a fluke.

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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2020, 10:51:21 PM »

In 538 they added this poll as one with 872 V[oters]. What does it mean? RV, LV or something in between?

PPP (among other pollsters) often reports the sample as being "voters" when they haven't applied a likely voter screen.  In other words, it's registered voters.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2020, 12:59:30 AM »

Was Maine's 2016 margin a fluke?

I'm hoping that entire election was a fluke.



2020 is looking scarily similar though.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2020, 02:11:34 AM »

Remember when PPP had Clinton at +5 in a bunch of states that Trump won two days before the election? Toss it in the trash with the rest of their polls.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2020, 08:48:21 AM »

Remember when PPP had Clinton at +5 in a bunch of states that Trump won two days before the election? Toss it in the trash with the rest of their polls.

Remember when PPP was the first one to pick up the Biden surge in SC?  They hit some and miss some, just like most other pollsters.  On average they're pretty good.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2020, 10:31:30 AM »

Was Maine's 2016 margin a fluke?

I'm hoping that entire election was a fluke.



In some states and regions, 2016 probably was a fluke. Like IN 2008. But still not enough room for comfort. WI definitely wasn't a fluke. Trump could win it again. Last cycle, people in media and online forums such as this made the mistake by looking only at how the state voted in 2008 & 2012 and we expected 2016 to be similar to the Obama elections. Further, WI didn't vote GOP since 1984. The truth, however, is that 2000 and 2004 were very close and HRC basically took the state for granted.

If Biden or Sanders win ME by 10, ME-2 will go blue and Jared Golden wins reelection.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2020, 03:21:57 PM »

Trump has a high floor in AZ but I believe Biden winning with a Sinema margin is very possible. Of course if it decides the election conservatives will claim it was stolen because of the time it will take to count mail in ballots.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2020, 03:41:36 PM »

Remember when PPP had Clinton at +5 in a bunch of states that Trump won two days before the election? Toss it in the trash with the rest of their polls.

Remember when every pollster except Trafalgar had Clinton winning by 4-8 points in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania within a week before the election? Toss all polls in the trash.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2020, 03:46:03 PM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Imagine telling them that democrats would lose Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 6 years' time.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2020, 03:51:21 PM »

Remember when PPP had Clinton at +5 in a bunch of states that Trump won two days before the election? Toss it in the trash with the rest of their polls.

Remember when PPP was the first one to pick up the Biden surge in SC?  They hit some and miss some, just like most other pollsters.  On average they're pretty good.

And the fact is that the only things general election polling is good for this far out is picking up on changes, and perhaps roughly evaluating and comparing candidate strength (ie identifying that candidate A is a weaker challenger to candidate C than candidate B is). Things can and will change; polls are more or less utterly useless for predicting what the final results will be this far out.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2020, 04:11:23 PM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that President Donald Trump would be a thing. 

He wanted to be "a thing" as early as mid-1980s.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2020, 04:11:52 PM »

Imagine telling someone in 2010 that Arizona might have two Democratic Senators, Georgia might gain a Democratic Senator, Susan Collins is on a possible path to defeat, and President Donald Trump would be in danger of losing Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia to Joe Biden.

Trump is losing GA ?? What have you smoken ?
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