2024 presidential odds

[GeneralMacArthur]

From https://sports.coral.co.uk/event/politics/politics-international/us-elections/2024-us-presidential-election/13970376/main-markets

Pence 8/1
Sanders 12/1
Trump (Donald) 16/1
Buttigieg 20/1

Trump (Ivanka) 25/1
Bloomberg 25/1
Obama 25/1

AOC 33/1
Trump Jr. 33/1
Haley 33/1

Klobuchar 50/1
Clooney 50/1
Biden 50/1
Harris 50/1

Yang 66/1
Rubio 66/1

O'Rourke 100/1
Gates 100/1
Baker 100/1
The Rock 100/1
Warren 100/1
Clinton 100/1
Kennedy III 100/1
Kanye West 100/1
Meghan Markle 100/1
Romney 100/1
Turner 100/1
Winfrey 100/1
Scott 100/1
DeSantis 100/1
Abrams 100/1
Cruz 100/1
Gabbard 100/1

Rogan 200/1
Zuckerberg 200/1
Gaetz 200/1

Obviously terrible even ignoring jokes like Markle, Kanye, The Rock, etc.
DeSantis and Cruz way higher.  Dem bench is a wasteland.

Can you do it better, Atlas?  Give us your odds.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Also, Trump Sr. at 16/1 is way too high.  I highly doubt he would be the 2024 Republican nominee in any circumstance.  He will probably be too old to pull a Grover Cleveland, and there's no movement to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Unseating Bernie would be a tall task with the Senate lineup that the Dems have, and it will be Cruz and the nominee,  not Pence

[Grassroots]

Unseating Bernie would be a tall task with the Senate lineup that the Dems have, and it will be Cruz and the nominee,  not Pence

Cruz wouldn't win the primary. Are you ok?

Most of the party hates Cruz now.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

PREZ BIDEN V CRUZ race is clearly the most likely. After Trump loses in 2020, Pence wont be a factor

[Grassroots]

PREZ BIDEN V CRUZ race is clearly the most likely. After Trump loses in 2020, Pence wont be a factor

What is it with you and your hard on for Cruz?

[2016]

PREZ BIDEN V CRUZ race is clearly the most likely. After Trump loses in 2020, Pence wont be a factor

Haven't you learned anything from Republican Nominations past? A Social Conservative like Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley for that matter would never ever win the GOP Nomination.

Mike Huckabee tried in 2008 = Failed

Rick Santorum tried in 2012 = Failed

Ted Cruz tried 2016 = Failed

Only a Reform Conservative (Rubio, Haley) or a Moderate (like McCain '08, Romney '12, Trump '16) will be nominated.

Ted Cruz is finished!

[Grassroots]

PREZ BIDEN V CRUZ race is clearly the most likely. After Trump loses in 2020, Pence wont be a factor

Haven't you learned anything from Republican Nominations past? A Social Conservative like Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley for that matter would never ever win the GOP Nomination.

Mike Huckabee tried in 2008 = Failed

Rick Santorum tried in 2012 = Failed

Ted Cruz tried 2016 = Failed

Only a Reform Conservative (Rubio, Haley) or a Moderate (like McCain '08, Romney '12, Trump '16) will be nominated.

Ted Cruz is finished!

Josh Hawley isn't a generic christian conservative. He has a more modern, secular blend of social conservatism that echoes the European right. That can resonate in the north, which regular social conservatism from the likes of Huckabee and Santorum can't. Keep in mind that saying Ted Cru is a generic social conservative is overtly simplistic. He ran as a christian conservative with libertarian themes.

[Nightcore Nationalist]

Unseating Bernie would be a tall task with the Senate lineup that the Dems have, and it will be Cruz and the nominee,  not Pence

Cruz wouldn't win the primary. Are you ok?

Most of the party hates Cruz now.

Cruz is very intelligent and a good debater, but his time in the spotlight will be long-gone in 3 years.  I agree that he's becoming a nonentity already.

[538Electoral]

No one can predict it this far out.