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« Reply #1075 on: February 22, 2020, 10:39:05 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
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« Reply #1076 on: February 22, 2020, 10:39:14 PM »

Congressional Districts with 23% in:

CD-01:

58.75%   Sanders
20.95%   Biden
8.27%   Buttigieg
8.27%   Warren
2.79%   Steyer
0.75%   Klobuchar
0.11%   Gabbard
0.11%   Uncommitted

CD-02:

43.60%   Sanders
19.20%   Buttigieg
11.80%   Klobuchar
11.00%   Warren
7.80%   Biden
6.40%   Steyer
0.20%   Uncommitted

CD-03:

39.24%   Sanders
22.10%   Buttigieg
20.92%   Biden
13.19%   Warren
3.61%   Klobuchar
0.92%   Steyer

CD-04:

45.02%   Sanders
32.31%   Biden
9.31%   Buttigieg
5.59%   Steyer
5.27%   Warren
2.06%   Klobuchar
0.26%   Bennett
0.13%   Gabbard
0.06%   Patrick
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« Reply #1077 on: February 22, 2020, 10:40:06 PM »

Time to take Biden out back lmfao...

Seriously, what an embarrassment. Wasn't he leading in polling in Nevada just a couple weeks back?

That's because there wasn't any Nevada polling until this week since like before Christmas.
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« Reply #1078 on: February 22, 2020, 10:40:09 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

If Biden gets the nomination, a majority of black voters won't get their preferred nominee.
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« Reply #1079 on: February 22, 2020, 10:40:16 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
If Bernie is the nominee, Pennsylvania is already gone anyway, so Black turnout there won't matter.  Every single registered Black voter in the state could turn out, and Bernie would still lose, due to his position on fracking.  Bernie would get demolished in Western Pennsylvania.


We have to consider who the incumbent is. For every rural voter that votes for Trump there are two more in suburbs and urban areas that would vote for Sanders. I'm not sure that Sanders can do it, but Trump is slipping down the drain fast enough where Sanders could pull it off just because of Trump Fatigue.
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« Reply #1080 on: February 22, 2020, 10:40:18 PM »

Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.
Lol she's not gonna win dude
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« Reply #1081 on: February 22, 2020, 10:41:27 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...
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« Reply #1082 on: February 22, 2020, 10:42:47 PM »

Time to take Biden out back lmfao...

Seriously, what an embarrassment. Wasn't he leading in polling in Nevada just a couple weeks back?

That's because there wasn't any Nevada polling until this week since like before Christmas.

Fair enough, but this has to hurt the whole "Biden does better with muh diversity" spin coming from establishment dems...

Biden struggling with latino people so much is a surprising development to me.
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« Reply #1083 on: February 22, 2020, 10:43:08 PM »

Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.
Lol she's not gonna win dude

Anything can happen. For all we know Sanders has another heart attack tomorrow. For all we know all the 50+ candidates die of coronavirus in the next 3 months and Gabbard becomes the nominee after beating Buttigieg in a wrestling competition. This could be Warren's last shot, she might as well go the distance.
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« Reply #1084 on: February 22, 2020, 10:43:25 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

If Biden gets the nomination, a majority of black voters won't get their preferred nominee.
I mean, the same is true of Bernie with Latinos. What is your point?
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« Reply #1085 on: February 22, 2020, 10:43:34 PM »

According to NBC 36,541 Votes have been counted (Final Alignment)
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« Reply #1086 on: February 22, 2020, 10:44:00 PM »

Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.
Lol she's not gonna win dude

Anything can happen. For all we know Sanders has another heart attack tomorrow. For all we know all the 50+ candidates die of coronavirus in the next 3 months and Gabbard becomes the nominee after beating Buttigieg in a wrestling competition. This could be Warren's last shot, she might as well go the distance.
Damn, deranged and delusional. You hate to see it.
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« Reply #1087 on: February 22, 2020, 10:44:04 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...

I mean... demographics are destiny?

I think its pretty clear which voting bloc is going to be more important going forward.
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« Reply #1088 on: February 22, 2020, 10:44:27 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

And Hispanics, the biggest minority community should be denied their choice when they went for Bernie in a landslide ?

Sanders won the overall non-white vote 2-1.

By your logic of reliable voters, then should older votes also get to vote since many of them will die soon & they are deciding the vote for the next generation.

People above 45 should get half a vote.
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« Reply #1089 on: February 22, 2020, 10:44:57 PM »

Time to take Biden out back lmfao...

Seriously, what an embarrassment. Wasn't he leading in polling in Nevada just a couple weeks back?

That's because there wasn't any Nevada polling until this week since like before Christmas.

Fair enough, but this has to hurt the whole "Biden does better with muh diversity" spin coming from establishment dems...

Biden struggling with latino people so much is a surprising development to me.
I'm not sure if it's Biden struggling with Latinos, as much as it is Berine doing overwhelmingly well with Latinos.
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« Reply #1090 on: February 22, 2020, 10:46:09 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

And Hispanics, the biggest minority community should be denied their choice when they went for Bernie in a landslide ?
I wish it did not have to be an either-or, but if it does, I am going to prioritize black voters for the reasons mentioned above.
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« Reply #1091 on: February 22, 2020, 10:46:12 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...

That is just pure and vile anti-Latino racism.
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« Reply #1092 on: February 22, 2020, 10:46:49 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...
And in some key states that Democrats need to win, the black vote is far higher than the Hispanic vote.
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« Reply #1093 on: February 22, 2020, 10:47:04 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

If Biden gets the nomination, a majority of black voters won't get their preferred nominee.
I mean, the same is true of Bernie with Latinos. What is your point?

My point is that your point is facetious and hacky. There is nothing that suggests non-Bernie black voters in the primary will not be supporting Sanders in the general.
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« Reply #1094 on: February 22, 2020, 10:48:01 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...

Let's, uh, not do this.
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« Reply #1095 on: February 22, 2020, 10:48:26 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2020, 05:19:21 AM by Interlocutor »

Time to take Biden out back lmfao...

Seriously, what an embarrassment. Wasn't he leading in polling in Nevada just a couple weeks back?

That's because there wasn't any Nevada polling until this week since like before Christmas.

Fair enough, but this has to hurt the whole "Biden does better with muh diversity" spin coming from establishment dems...

Biden struggling with latino people so much is a surprising development to me.

Not surprising to me at all. Living in California, Latinos called Obama "Deporter in chief" as much as he was loved by them.

Trump may be more ugly in his derision of them, but Hispanics haven't forgotten Obama's immigration record and it transitions down to Biden (For better or worse).  It's not like those immigrant protesters at the debate interrupted Biden because he just so happened to be speaking when they did it.

And who else would they support in the race? Buttigieg speaks spanish alright, but him & Klobuchar do nothing for Hispanics.
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« Reply #1096 on: February 22, 2020, 10:48:57 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

So what? I mean latino's are going to be America's biggest minority voting block in the near future (if they aren't already), so its sort of a give and take in that regards.
Latinos have far less reliable turnout, and only vote democrat 2-1 or so. Black people turn out consistently, and vote democrat 10-1. Which one is more important...

That is just pure and vile anti-Latino racism.
Latinos are extremely important to democrats as well, and have single-handedly powered our new-found dominance in states like NM, CO, and NV. We need to be doing everything we can to make sure they get out there and vote. All I am saying is that black voters have been with us forever, so I am going to prioritize them.
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« Reply #1097 on: February 22, 2020, 10:49:09 PM »

Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.
Lol she's not gonna win dude

Anything can happen. For all we know Sanders has another heart attack tomorrow. For all we know all the 50+ candidates die of coronavirus in the next 3 months and Gabbard becomes the nominee after beating Buttigieg in a wrestling competition. This could be Warren's last shot, she might as well go the distance.
Damn, deranged and delusional. You hate to see it.

Frankly the fact that it triggers the people who called her snakes so much that Warren is staying would be sufficient justification in itself.
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« Reply #1098 on: February 22, 2020, 10:49:42 PM »

Is it not at least a bit concerning that the frontrunner is losing black voters by double digits?

Black voters are clearly the establishment, so that's not a concern. In seriousness, if black voters are being dismissed moving forward because they didn't vote for Sanders and he gets the nomination, then that would be trouble in November. A Democratic nominee cannot win a general election without decent black turnout in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Exactly. Bernie can and almost certainly will win the primary if the current numbers hold among other demos, but AA's-- democrats most loyal voters-- will have been denied their candidate of choice.

And Hispanics, the biggest minority community should be denied their choice when they went for Bernie in a landslide ?
I wish it did not have to be an either-or, but if it does, I am going to prioritize black voters for the reasons mentioned above.

The Black community is half of the Hispanic community & this is not a case of either or. If the Hispanic community doesn't vote 2-1 for the Democrats then Dems will lose Colorado Nevada & a host of other states & possibly the EC. They have turned massively towards the Dems & this 2-1 will become a 4-1 soon & they are the biggest growing community.

And Sanders is winning Black young voters by a huge margin. So Should Young Black Voters be denied their choice?]

Should young people be denied their choice? Should only 3-4% of the electorate, older Black voters above 50 get to decide the Dem Nomination & The President. That is just a ridiculous point. If Sanders won 2% of the Black vote like Pete & didn't get the Young black vote this would have been discussed. But this is absolutely crazy.
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« Reply #1099 on: February 22, 2020, 10:51:08 PM »

We've been stuck at 484 precincts reporting for a while. blarg!
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