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« on: February 18, 2020, 05:01:16 PM »
« edited: February 18, 2020, 05:11:53 PM by 👁️👁️ »
Bernie leads in the new NBC/WSJ poll

Bernie - 27 (+0)
Biden - 15 (-11)
Bloomberg - 14 (+5)
Warren - 14 (-1)
Buttigieg - 13 (+6)
Klobuchar - 7 (+2)





2nd choices:

Bernie - 19
Buttigieg - 17
Warren - 17
Klobuchar - 15
Biden - 10
Bloomberg - 10
Steyer - 2
Gabbard - 1



Bernie also wins in a 1 v 1 matchup by 57-37 against Bloomberg

And Bernie also leads against Biden in a 1 v 1 matchup 54-38
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2020, 05:02:10 PM »
But has gained zero new support from January:
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2020, 05:03:39 PM »
You've swapped Pete and Amy.

Very annoying to see everybody clustered around 15% letting Sanders win with a very low plurality.  Hopefully Nevada and South Carolina can provide clarity.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2020, 05:04:53 PM »
Can I get a "SWEET SASSY MOLLASEY" or what?
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 05:06:05 PM »


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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2020, 05:06:38 PM »
Joe Biden IS PATHETIC!
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2020, 05:07:26 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on February 18, 2020, 05:02:10 PM
But has gained zero new support from January:



Every poll shows Bernie gaining support except this one, he leads by a lot, and you still find something to try and hang on to.  Good job.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2020, 05:07:52 PM »
Quote from: Eraserhead on February 18, 2020, 05:04:53 PM
Can I get a "SWEET SASSY MOLLASEY" or what?

SWEET SASSY MOLLASEY!!! 
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2020, 05:08:10 PM »
Biden, Bloomberg and Buttigieg clustered tab 15% with no incentive to drop out isn’t perfect
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2020, 05:09:08 PM »

That whole "Go vote for someone else!" approach of his really bore fruit...
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2020, 05:10:04 PM »
IL, MI, PA, VA are moving towards Bernie, that were safe Biden
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 05:10:35 PM »
The 2nd choices here and the 1 v 1 matchups of Bernie against Biden and Bloomberg are pretty telling.

According to this poll, it is just false that more candidates dropping out would make Bernie do worse. The "moderates" are not going to consolidate, Bernie gets more 2nd choice support than Bloomberg (or anyone else) does.


2nd choice:

Bernie - 19
Buttigieg - 17
Warren - 17
Klobuchar - 15
Biden - 10
Bloomberg - 10
Steyer - 2
Gabbard - 1


And Bernie beats Bloomberg by 20 points if everyone other than Bloomberg drops out...
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2020, 05:14:15 PM »
I’m going to throw up.

Sanders is going to win this thing because the moderates are putting their own interest ahead of the interest of the country. One needs to go
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2020, 05:15:38 PM »
Quote from: Arch on February 18, 2020, 05:09:08 PM

That whole "Go vote for someone else!" approach of his really bore fruit...
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2020, 05:16:27 PM »
Quote from: MillennialModerate on February 18, 2020, 05:14:15 PM
I’m going to throw up.

Sanders is going to win this thing because the moderates are putting their own interest ahead of the interest of the country. One needs to go

Incorrect, Bernie wins by even more in a 1 vs 1 matchup against either Biden or Bloomberg. The problem for the "moderates" is not that they are splitting the vote. There is no such thing as this imagined "moderate" anti-Bernie vote. That's just not a thing, we now see that clearly in this poll and also the YouGov one, it is a consistent pattern in the polling data.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2020, 05:24:40 PM »
Most Democrats really like Bernie Sanders, even those ones who don't have him as their first choice at the moment. Eventually people are just going to have to accept that.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2020, 05:32:14 PM »
Quote from: Eraserhead on February 18, 2020, 05:24:40 PM
Most Democrats really like Bernie Sanders, even those ones who don't have him as their first choice at the moment. Eventually people are just going to have to accept that.

I think this is probably the day that the "acceptance" phase starts for a lot of people who pay attention to polls for whom Bernie is not their first choice.

For the general public and lower information voters, the "acceptance" phase will start on Super Tuesday when they see Bernie Sanders winning nationwide.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 05:42:22 PM »
I have actually never been more optimistic about Pete’s chances than before ...

Much will depend on his performance tomorrow at the debate and if they manage to shred Bloomberg into pieces and if he gets a 2nd place finish in NV.

If Bloomberg can be weakened tomorrow and Pete positioning himself as a bridge between the leftist Sanders and the election-buying Bloomberg, Biden continues collapsing and a good Saturday result, the door is wide open for Pete ...
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 05:47:29 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on February 18, 2020, 05:42:22 PM
I have actually never been more optimistic about Pete’s chances than before ...

Much will depend on his performance tomorrow at the debate and if they manage to shred Bloomberg into pieces and if he gets a 2nd place finish in NV.

If Bloomberg can be weakened tomorrow and Pete positioning himself as a bridge between the leftist Sanders and the election-buying Bloomberg, Biden continues collapsing and a good Saturday result, the door is wide open for Pete ...

In reality, Pete loses by 17 points against Bernie even if he were to somehow knock out Bloomberg/Biden/etc. There is no path for Pete, sorry.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2020, 05:54:15 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on February 18, 2020, 05:42:22 PM
I have actually never been more optimistic about Pete’s chances than before ...

Much will depend on his performance tomorrow at the debate and if they manage to shred Bloomberg into pieces and if he gets a 2nd place finish in NV.

If Bloomberg can be weakened tomorrow and Pete positioning himself as a bridge between the leftist Sanders and the election-buying Bloomberg, Biden continues collapsing and a good Saturday result, the door is wide open for Pete ...

Yep, Pete's breakthrough with non-whites is coming any day now...
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2020, 07:44:20 PM »
Inject in my veins
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2020, 04:39:36 AM »
a 4-way bunch up for 2nd place is the best thing Bernie could've asked for.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2020, 05:38:13 AM »
They polled actually Bernie vs Pete (Bernie + 16) and Bernie vs Mike (Bernie +20)




https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6779408/200085-NBCWSJ-February-Poll.pdf



And here 1st + 2nd choice>>>



Bernie 45%
Warren 29%
Pete 29%
Biden 25% (!!!)
Mike 23$
Klob 21%
Steyer 4$
Gabbard 3%




Translation: It's Bernie's to lose now.
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