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« on: February 10, 2020, 09:08:12 PM »

Given their states
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 09:14:45 PM »

No, I get that "Collins is DOA" has kind of become a meme but she’s definitely not more likely to lose than McSally.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 10:29:36 PM »

No no no

Collins is still in this.

McSally.....eeeehhh
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2020, 10:37:52 PM »

Well Trump is going to do better in Arizona than in Maine. I would be a bit surprised if this were the case, but an unlikely but possible scenario is Collins not overperforming or barely overperforming Trump. Or alternatively if Maine has a surprisingly large shift back to the Democrats. That said, I think it is more likely that McSally loses than that Collins loses. My feeling is that AZ is Tossup/Tilt D while ME is Tilt to Lean R.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2020, 11:10:34 PM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2020, 12:56:28 AM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.

I don’t think it’s a given that she outperforms Trump. These things have a weird way of turning conventional wisdom on its head
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2020, 01:59:55 AM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.

I don’t think it’s a given that she outperforms Trump. These things have a weird way of turning conventional wisdom on its head

Okay this is getting ridiculous now
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2020, 03:15:25 AM »

Ernst is in the same boat, IA have a Dem congressional delegation and we havent seen an Iowa poll, lately. All three will lose
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2020, 06:36:28 AM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.

I don’t think it’s a given that she outperforms Trump. These things have a weird way of turning conventional wisdom on its head

Okay this is getting ridiculous now

Collins only survived because had Indy and Dem support. That isn't likely to happen this time around.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:13 AM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.

I don’t think it’s a given that she outperforms Trump. These things have a weird way of turning conventional wisdom on its head

Okay this is getting ridiculous now

Collins only survived because had Indy and Dem support. That isn't likely to happen this time around.

Who would a Trump-Gideon voter be?
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 10:18:42 AM »

Rs are gonna lose AZ, CO, IA, KS, ME and NC. Also, have problems in TX, GA, AK, KY and SC. Ernst and Collins were wrong in acquitting Trump. SMC isn't in a tough race that's why she will get away with it
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 02:14:01 PM »

Maine isn't that blue of a state. It's no Colorado. Collins only has to outrun Trump by a few points to win.

I don’t think it’s a given that she outperforms Trump. These things have a weird way of turning conventional wisdom on its head

Okay this is getting ridiculous now

Collins only survived because had Indy and Dem support. That isn't likely to happen this time around.

So why is she going to underperform Trump, exactly? Why does Gideon have more appeal in ME than Sanders? You’re insinuating that there will be no split-ticket voting here because of "polarization" and the fact that Collins has lost all of her crossover appeal because she’s been exposed as a R hack, so surely all those attack ads portraying her as a Trump pawn and reminding voters of her Kavanaugh/impeachment vote/etc. aren’t going to hurt her with the R base? If the race turns into generic R vs. generic D and candidates and electoral history don’t matter, why would she underperform Trump?
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 02:24:22 PM »

Nope.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2020, 02:56:00 PM »

Not a chance
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2020, 03:20:49 PM »

Well, no. I personally believe that Collins is teetering on the point of no return after impeachment, but Martha McSally has already past it.

(And Cory Gardner is jetpacking some 80 miles beyond the point of no return, for comparison.)
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2020, 03:46:40 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2020, 04:13:38 PM »

Collins is set to lose, anyways just like Scott and Sununu will lose reelection,  every state except WI is set to join the popular vote referendum and ending EC by 2024. Ernst is gonna lose because she isnt Chuck Grassley. She would of lost to Braley but 2014 had 6 percent unemployment
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2020, 05:42:30 PM »

I wish lmao

Collins is safer than McSally.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2020, 10:38:22 AM »

No because Collins is objectively a better candidate than McSally and Mark Kelly is an objectively better candidate than Gideon.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2020, 12:07:33 PM »

Collins actually won statewide before.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2020, 03:16:03 PM »

No because Collins is objectively a better candidate than McSally and Mark Kelly is an objectively better candidate than Gideon.

Yeah and it’s unlikely than Maine will be much more democratic than Arizona (Trump probably loses Maine by 5 and AZ by 1) at the presidential level
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2020, 07:03:22 PM »

She already is lol.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2020, 07:27:07 PM »

I think her chances of winning are being seriously overrated by Atlas and the media.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2020, 07:40:14 PM »


You made a complete fool out of yourself in 2018, Mr. "Bill Nelson will win by 20%" -- not surprised to see you haven't learned your lesson!
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2020, 10:43:14 PM »

NC isnt Tilt R, its voting Popular vote over EC winner and Tillis is toast. But, Collins is finally gonna lose
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