Biden's "how are we gonna pay for all this" failed to excite people

[win win]

Do you think he should his platform should have included more incremental change?
He promised few exciting ideas to voters, and he got few votes back.

[Sir Mohamed]

He could go further here and there, but promising stuff you can't deliver ultimately leads to more frustration among voters. Going too far left would also make him less authentic, since that isn't who he is.

[GP270watch]

 When 137 million Americans have had medical debt, "how are we going to pay" for a healthcare system doesn't resonate. Americans are already bearing the brunt of the current healthcare system.

[RI]

Responsibility is hardly exciting, but that doesn't mean we should dispense with it

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Yes, clearly he should have offered a real vision for the country like Amy Klobachar's powerful message of "We can't do anything progressive because it's all too expensive and also I'm from Minnesota."  Maybe if Biden had mentioned that he was from Delaware every other sentence things would be different, but the world will never know...

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

It fails to excite people, but it's the truth. The reality is that Bernie has no accomplishments during his Senate career and is unlikely to deliver on all the free stuff he's promising his base. His only positive is he has kept the same message for decades, but his message has made no headway nor has it been able to gain enough support even in his own party to be implemented.

Of course, when his base is made largely of idealistic college students that think they will get free healthcare, tuition, and all their loans forgiven, realism is not what they are looking for.

[TML]

Remember that Trump's proposal that Mexico would pay for a border wall fired up his base, even if most of the general public didn't believe the proposal was anywhere near realistic. Democrats need to take a page from this book and throw out bold policy proposals to excite their base, instead of depressing it by saying that this and that are not possible.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Remember that Trump's proposal that Mexico would pay for a border wall fired up his base, even if most of the general public didn't believe the proposal was anywhere near realistic. Democrats need to take a page from this book and throw out bold policy proposals to excite their base, instead of depressing it by saying that this and that are not possible.

There's nothing "bold" about making promises that you know perfectly well you'll never be able to keep, quite the opposite in fact.  It's cowardice, plain and simple.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Remember that Trump's proposal that Mexico would pay for a border wall fired up his base, even if most of the general public didn't believe the proposal was anywhere near realistic. Democrats need to take a page from this book and throw out bold policy proposals to excite their base, instead of depressing it by saying that this and that are not possible.

Promising a border wall is one thing. Promising free college, student loan forgiveness, and a complete government takeover of the healthcare system is quite another.

I understand promising "bold" policies will excite a base, but it also sets one up for failure. There is zero chance Bernie can get all of those things done. I don't think he can even get one of them done. It was hard enough to get Obamacare passed, and that was with a united Democratic Party.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

If you want to win voters back, you need bold proposals and implement them. I'm sure people didn't believe in the New Deal either because who was going to pay for it, but eventually it worked out pretty well. Government intervention in the economy is necessary to keep the money rollin', make sure we don't have to spend a lot on healthcare and low life expectations in general because of cheap healthcare focused on accessibility and prevention, and cheap education, making sure people have longer and more qualitative lifespans, keeping them longer on the labor market. Social security and economic government intervention is expensive as , but without it would still cost us a lot. And the government has the task to make lives and life easier imo. Labor should be paid decently.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Remember that Trump's proposal that Mexico would pay for a border wall fired up his base, even if most of the general public didn't believe the proposal was anywhere near realistic. Democrats need to take a page from this book and throw out bold policy proposals to excite their base, instead of depressing it by saying that this and that are not possible.

Promising a border wall is one thing. Promising free college, student loan forgiveness, and a complete government takeover of the healthcare system is quite another.

I understand promising "bold" policies will excite a base, but it also sets one up for failure. There is zero chance Bernie can get all of those things done. I don't think he can even get one of them done. It was hard enough to get Obamacare passed, and that was with a united Democratic Party.

Also, he refuses to talk about how he'll get things done.  Tbh, that's the bigger problem imo.  He comes across as having put as much thought into that part as the Bush administration did into how it would handle post-invasion Iraq.

[beaver2.0]

It’s not exciting but it’s true.