New Hampshire Primary Thread (polls close at 6-7 CT)

[SN2903]

Closer than I would've liked but Bernie still eked out a win in the end. NV and SC won't be as favorable for Butt.

Too early to tell. I think Pete is gaining momentum.

[It’s so Joever]

2-0 Bernie!

You are the living definition of a Bernie Bro.

[Zanas]

None of you Buttigieg supporters can complain about Sanders supporters talking about conspiracy theories. Pete Buttigieg is literally pushing debunked #FakeNews conspiracy theories about cheating.

I also find it humorous that Buttigieg thinks he has a new perspective. He has little experience, but he's not bringing any new ideas to the table. None.

Buttigieg is Macron. Seems young and energetic, but says little of substance, and acts very conservative. (Sorry for doing my Tender here and bringing up my old European country into this, won't happen again)

[indietraveler]

Culinary Union ready to go HAM against Sanders:

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1227442725110403077?s=20

Seems for this to be effective they would need to actively push an alternative? Doesn't make sense to just be anti-Sanders with a million other choices.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

None of you Buttigieg supporters can complain about Sanders supporters talking about conspiracy theories. Pete Buttigieg is literally pushing debunked #FakeNews conspiracy theories about cheating.

I also find it humorous that Buttigieg thinks he has a new perspective. He has little experience, but he's not bringing any new ideas to the table. None.

Buttigieg is Macron.

That's a compelling argument in his favor.

[AtorBoltox]

Bernie goes 2 for 2

[indietraveler]

Nice to see Sanders pushing unity early on this time.

[atheist4thecause]

Why is Klobuchar gaining steam? Other than being pro-choice and pro-women, she seems to me to be obsessed with beinf a centrist on almost every issue. She likes to describe her beliefs and policies in ambiguous ways that COULD sound leftist but could also sound centrist (which they are).

Are so many voters at their cores moderates?

Yes, so many Democrats are Moderate Liberals. Also worth noting, New Hampshire allows Independents to vote.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Why is Klobuchar gaining steam? Other than being pro-choice and pro-women, she seems to me to be obsessed with beinf a centrist on almost every issue. She likes to describe her beliefs and policies in ambiguous ways that COULD sound leftist but could also sound centrist (which they are).

Are so many voters at their cores moderates?

Many voters at their cores are unideological and vote based on presentation, which Klobuchar is good at in her own way. There's a reason rhetoric was one of the Trivium and statecraft wasn't.

[AtorBoltox]

None of you Buttigieg supporters can complain about Sanders supporters talking about conspiracy theories. Pete Buttigieg is literally pushing debunked #FakeNews conspiracy theories about cheating.

I also find it humorous that Buttigieg thinks he has a new perspective. He has little experience, but he's not bringing any new ideas to the table. None.

Buttigieg is Macron.

That's a compelling argument in his favor.

Le Pen is likely to win in 2022 because Macron is such a failure but sure...

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

I’m VERY glad Biden’s vote total was so underwhelming

[Lourdes]

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1227441035376308224

[YE]

Culinary Union ready to go HAM against Sanders:

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1227442725110403077?s=20

Is this the same story from Friday? Haven't looked at it yet.

[Gass3268]

Why is Klobuchar gaining steam? Other than being pro-choice and pro-women, she seems to me to be obsessed with beinf a centrist on almost every issue. She likes to describe her beliefs and policies in ambiguous ways that COULD sound leftist but could also sound centrist (which they are).

Are so many voters at their cores moderates?

Yes, so many Democrats are Moderate Liberals. Also worth noting, New Hampshire allows Independents to vote.

I remember when this line was a positive talking point for Sanders.

[Lisa's voting Biden]

Closer than I would've liked but Bernie still eked out a win in the end. NV and SC won't be as favorable for Butt.

Too early to tell. I think Pete is gaining momentum.

I'm just basing it on demographics. Of course, Pete could very likely skyrocket in the polls like he did before tonight.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1227441035376308224

Definitely a turnaround from 2016, when Hillary Clinton's dominance of the black vote enabled her to overcome Sanders' youth and working-class coalition and to win the nomination.

[OSR stands with Israel]

OSR unironically thinks that Obama probably wishes he had lost in 2012 to save the country from Trump. He’s an unwitting troll not worth engaging.

Obviously Obama would have preferred two terms of Romney who probably was the most moderate nominee since 1976 vs a second term where he barely got anything done then(and the things he did where reversed by Trump) and then followed up by Trump

That's probably true, but he'd prefer Clinton won in 2016 over any of that, so...

Obviously but he would prefer Romney 2012 over OTL

[Gass3268]

Culinary Union ready to go HAM against Sanders:

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1227442725110403077?s=20

Is this the same story from Friday? Haven't looked at it yet.

It's an advancement of that. A text, email, and paper mail sent to ever member saying Sanders will end your "Culinary healthcare."

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

Culinary Union ready to go HAM against Sanders:

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1227442725110403077?s=20

Let’s hope Bernie’s people come ready with the chairs again just in case

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bernie and Buttigieg are gonna be the fusion ticket, Klobuchar probably loses out. Trump is gonna have a hard time attacking Bernie due him being Jewish and Netanyahu is his friend. Bloomberg ads are gonna reinforce Bernie Sanders and Bernie will win SC due to Warren supporters dropping

[It’s so Joever]

Buttigieg wins 2-0.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

I agree with that, but I don't think democrats have anyone that can beat Trump this year.

Trump is down by 10 pts

[atheist4thecause]

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1227441035376308224

This doesn't always translate, though. First of all, you're talking about a very small group of people, and then you're ignoring subgroups. I think this kind of messaging is misguided sometimes.

[Florida Man for Crime]

None of you Buttigieg supporters can complain about Sanders supporters talking about conspiracy theories. Pete Buttigieg is literally pushing debunked #FakeNews conspiracy theories about cheating.

I also find it humorous that Buttigieg thinks he has a new perspective. He has little experience, but he's not bringing any new ideas to the table. None.

Buttigieg is Macron.

That's a compelling argument in his favor.

Le Pen is likely to win in 2022 because Macron is such a failure but sure...

There is a good article on the similarities between Macron and Buttigieg here. It is problematic and there is reason to think that Buttigieg would have similar problems to Macron.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/pete-buttigiegs-radical-centrism/603931/