2020 Census and Redistricting Thread: Michigan

[lfromnj]

https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/w6866

https://www.facebook.com/washtenawdems/posts/4660156020671501

Not shockingly.

I mean a lot of other partisan influence is usually based on asking to keep communities together but the Ann Arbor one is hilarious because they beg to be split apart.   They even admit that splitting Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti doesn't make sense but they want to force it. Even Boulder County in CO was thankful for being kept together .

[It’s so Joever]

https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/w6866

https://www.facebook.com/washtenawdems/posts/4660156020671501

Not shockingly.

I mean a lot of other partisan influence is usually based on asking to keep communities together but the Ann Arbor one is hilarious because they beg to be split apart.   They even admit that splitting Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti doesn't make sense but they want to force it. Even Boulder County in CO was thankful for being kept together .

Boulder County residents would want to be split anyways.

[BoiseBoy]

https://twitter.com/fox17/status/1453451440492449793?s=21

[It’s so Joever]

https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/w6866

https://www.facebook.com/washtenawdems/posts/4660156020671501

Not shockingly.

I mean a lot of other partisan influence is usually based on asking to keep communities together but the Ann Arbor one is hilarious because they beg to be split apart.   They even admit that splitting Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti doesn't make sense but they want to force it. Even Boulder County in CO was thankful for being kept together .

Breaking News: LfromNJ doesn’t listen to local officials, believes he knows a county better than the residents living in it. /s

[lfromnj]

https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/w6866

https://www.facebook.com/washtenawdems/posts/4660156020671501

Not shockingly.

I mean a lot of other partisan influence is usually based on asking to keep communities together but the Ann Arbor one is hilarious because they beg to be split apart.   They even admit that splitting Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti doesn't make sense but they want to force it. Even Boulder County in CO was thankful for being kept together .

Boulder County residents would want to be split anyways.

IIRC a few people in the preliminary map from Nederland went bezerk over being placed with Boebert even though it helped make the district closer to a swing district.

[It’s so Joever]

https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/w6866

https://www.facebook.com/washtenawdems/posts/4660156020671501

Not shockingly.

I mean a lot of other partisan influence is usually based on asking to keep communities together but the Ann Arbor one is hilarious because they beg to be split apart.   They even admit that splitting Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti doesn't make sense but they want to force it. Even Boulder County in CO was thankful for being kept together .

Boulder County residents would want to be split anyways.

IIRC a few people in the preliminary map from Nederland went bezerk over being placed with Boebert even though it helped make the district closer to a swing district.

Not surprising to be honest. The average voter doesn’t actually think about these partisan implications from the perspective we do. Usually they only care about who they are represented by.

[lfromnj]

R Commissioners are finally starting to argue on certain arguments on partisan fairness.

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1453725311439310856
https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1453725940039622678

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1453727025831710724

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/bensolis1/status/1454143848897257476

The latest NC state senate map is literally better than this insanity.(obviously the NC congressional map is a pretty brutal gerrymander)

[It’s so Joever]

Thank gosh Eid is pushing for fair maps.

[Oryxslayer]

The latest NC state senate map is literally better than this insanity.(obviously the NC congressional map is a pretty brutal gerrymander)

Bad comparison, half the NC senate map is decided by multi-county groupings and everything is nested. Of course it looks nice at a glace.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The latest NC state senate map is literally better than this insanity.(obviously the NC congressional map is a pretty brutal gerrymander)

Bad comparison, half the NC senate map is decided by multi-county groupings and everything is nested. Of course it looks nice at a glace.

Imagine if MI had county clusters like NC did. What would the map look like?

[lfromnj]

The latest NC state senate map is literally better than this insanity.(obviously the NC congressional map is a pretty brutal gerrymander)

Bad comparison, half the NC senate map is decided by multi-county groupings and everything is nested. Of course it looks nice at a glace.

Ik about the rules. The point is those rules are more effective in stopping gerrymandering than an independent commission at least at a legislative level. Don't get me wrong county clusters aren't great for congressional, as you can still do too much with such large districts but I think they reasonable limit anything at state legislative levels.

They also aren't perfect either at the legislative level as we do have some weird districts in NC such as Moore -Fayetteville

[Gass3268]

State Senate Cherry is the map moving forward.

https://twitter.com/bensolis1/status/1455210250219528197?s=20

[😥]

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1455290831309623301?s=20

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1455292485572386820?s=20

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1455290831309623301?s=20

https://twitter.com/clarajanehen/status/1455292485572386820?s=20

Incredible how the Michigan current map is considered an extrene gerrymander but because it turns out to be relatively equal by the end the commision barely changed anything besides reuniting the Lansing methods or gerrymandering grand rapids in the opposite direction.  Nothing crazy other than Grand rapids but found it funny.

[Sol]

Kalamazoo-GR is so dumb.

[lfromnj]

Kalamazoo-GR is so dumb.

Well even starting with a midland to flint district which is a relatively reasonable district Democrats need , so the thumb can pack every single R in metro Detroit you still need to gerrymander the state elsewhere to make an  "equitable " map.Either dump  Macomb with areas like Ferndale to keep Levin with a safe seat or the idiotic Grand Rapid moves with areas like KZ or Muskegon. The former is a meh move while the latter 2 are fairly outrageous

[Sol]

Isn't a lot of the stuff with the Grand Rapids area the result of really aggressive lobbying by folks from Ottawa County?

[lfromnj]

Isn't a lot of the stuff with the Grand Rapids area the result of really aggressive lobbying by folks from Ottawa County?

Partially yes but also partially due to partisan fairness. Also people trying to say Muskegon GR is a vra seat

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Can somebody do a DRA for the Birch Plan. I think that's the one that ultimately will be selected

[😥]

Can somebody do a DRA for the Birch Plan. I think that's the one that ultimately will be selected

Three maps in DRA

https://twitter.com/Fo4Afuture/status/1455296647890604036?t=RHCuk-yfHw96LV7bgDxm...

[Stuart98]

Chestnut is so based.

[EastAnglianLefty]

Interesting that Chestnut is the only plan to use Southfield for one of the VRA districts. Also worth noting you could theoretically get a Biden district out of both Oakland and Macomb by swapping Rochester for Royal Oak etc, so it'll be interesting to see if there's a push for that in the consultation.

[Nyvin]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1457535235139244034?t=Oj2vnnHLBpSMw08fAZ1e...

I'm surprised the Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo district made it.  The other two maps are pretty normal really.  

They made Kildee's seat Biden+2 and the Lansing district close to 50/50 in all three maps.

The Birch map is probably the best for Democrats long-term as Grand Rapids and Upton's district are both trending D overall, so potentially up to 9 districts total.  For 2022 the best map for D's is the Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo "Apple" map.

I would have to imagine the MIGOP is rooting for the Chestnut map.

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1457535235139244034?t=Oj2vnnHLBpSMw08fAZ1e...

I'm surprised the Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo district made it.  The other two maps are pretty normal really.  

They made Kildee's seat Biden+2 and the Lansing district close to 50/50 in all three maps.

The Birch map is probably the best for Democrats long-term as Grand Rapids and Upton's district are both trending D overall, so potentially up to 9 districts total.  For 2022 the best map for D's is the Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo "Apple" map.

I would have to imagine the MIGOP is rooting for the Chestnut map.

TBH, I feel like Meijer is someone who could become entrenched and be a consistent overperformer a la Fitzpatrick or Katko.