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« Reply #425 on: August 30, 2021, 11:07:47 AM »

The Commission is going to start drawing Congressional districts today. Going to start in the UP/North before heading to the Southeast and Lansing areas.
Is there a way to watch this happen live, like with the Utah redistricting?

Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jbrlWzWRYgg&list=PLeyRQ8IgEZlZnfTFzpSo-hJct7R3d8UjQ&index=1
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« Reply #426 on: August 30, 2021, 11:52:01 AM »

Welp seems like they aren't gonna be drawing the districts today that's underwhelming lol.
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« Reply #427 on: August 30, 2021, 12:40:14 PM »
« Edited: August 30, 2021, 12:47:59 PM by Canis »

Welp seems like they aren't gonna be drawing the districts today that's underwhelming lol.
Where are you getting that from? I have it playing while im doing my opening fall classes lol they voted to skip drawing districts in the eastern part of the state. They just drew the first district
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« Reply #428 on: August 30, 2021, 12:58:05 PM »

Welp seems like they aren't gonna be drawing the districts today that's underwhelming lol.
Where are you getting that from? I have it playing while im doing my opening fall classes lol they voted to skip drawing districts in the eastern part of the state. They just drew the first district

Right now they're drawing the state Senate districts, not the US House districts.
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« Reply #429 on: August 30, 2021, 01:03:03 PM »

Welp seems like they aren't gonna be drawing the districts today that's underwhelming lol.
Where are you getting that from? I have it playing while im doing my opening fall classes lol they voted to skip drawing districts in the eastern part of the state. They just drew the first district

Right now they're drawing the state Senate districts, not the US House districts.
Thanks for clarifying!
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« Reply #430 on: August 31, 2021, 04:13:46 PM »



Work from today in Western MI. There additionally is a Holland seat and Muskegon planned out. However, the outer Muskegon competitive seat looks to be scrapped for the future, with the outer bits of the county going with other rural areas.
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« Reply #431 on: August 31, 2021, 04:19:28 PM »

The House map will go from 2 safe D districts in Kent to 4,  with an additional competitive seat after that.
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« Reply #432 on: August 31, 2021, 04:39:32 PM »

Is that UMich twitter guy a poster here?  I see his links all the time.
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« Reply #433 on: August 31, 2021, 04:41:26 PM »

The Democrats seem really happy about the Western Michigan changes.  They are pointing out that rural areas previously had too much influence.  I wonder how much of a factor population decline in rural areas is. 
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« Reply #434 on: August 31, 2021, 09:03:01 PM »

The House map will go from 2 safe D districts in Kent to 4,  with an additional competitive seat after that.
Only three safe seats; one of the double digit Biden seats is ancestrally Republican and voted for James in 2018 senate (though it voted for Peters last year).
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« Reply #435 on: September 16, 2021, 02:20:16 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7TK2d_heQ

They drawing CDs right now
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« Reply #436 on: September 16, 2021, 03:00:11 PM »

Draft senate map can be found HERE.
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« Reply #437 on: September 16, 2021, 03:55:35 PM »


They're offline now. They seem to have finished (?) drawing the two Detroit CDs in Wayne County plus started drawing a third district in southern Oakland County. Interestingly, they did not go into Oakland County at all for the Detroit CDs it seems.
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« Reply #438 on: September 16, 2021, 04:05:02 PM »


It looks normal?
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« Reply #439 on: September 16, 2021, 04:45:55 PM »

Does anyone know if how they drew Detroit is legal? To me, it looks like they packed black voters into one seat.
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« Reply #440 on: September 16, 2021, 04:48:39 PM »

Does anyone know if how they drew Detroit is legal? To me, it looks like they packed black voters into one seat.

They were discussing it in the commission and it seems likely it’ll change and their districts “1 and 2” will swap some population. Ig they’re waiting for the input of some civil weights person
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« Reply #441 on: September 16, 2021, 05:08:58 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2021, 05:29:01 PM by lfromnj »

The Detroit district is only 51.2% black from my rough calculations. You wouldn't swap between 1 and 2. If you want to up 2's black % you should just swap super white Livonia for  very black  Southfield and Southfield township(Not a black town but Southfield city + town is basically the pop of Livonia.)


This should probably work it out as green becomes 46.7 black.
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« Reply #442 on: September 16, 2021, 05:15:23 PM »

The Detroit district is only 51.2% black from my rough calculations.

Yeah it looks like less a case of the Detroit seat getting overpacked - the bit of Macomb sees to that - more a case that Detroit doesn't have enough AAs for a second seat on its own. You gotta go into Oakland and get Southfield or a bit more if two seats with 50% AA, or close to it, is the preferred outcome. If you only want say two 40ish seats then Wayne has enough to work with, though reducing it is sketchy since there is an argument MI-13 failed to elect the preferred candidate of African Americans in 2018.
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« Reply #443 on: September 16, 2021, 08:11:52 PM »

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« Reply #444 on: September 16, 2021, 09:17:26 PM »

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1438684330830745604

Yep, there is no chance in hell that one Dem signs off on this, much less 2.

It could become a Dem trendymander by 2026-30 but for 2022 no way Dems would approve.
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« Reply #445 on: September 16, 2021, 10:08:17 PM »

What happens if the commission can't agree in MI?
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« Reply #446 on: September 17, 2021, 09:24:06 PM »

This map is god awful.

I was watching a bit of the map drawing and it def wasn't drawn with partisan intent, it more seems like they were clueless. They started in Detroit so district 1 and 2 had great implications for the rest of the map it seems.
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« Reply #447 on: September 17, 2021, 09:31:05 PM »

That 1st is awful.
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« Reply #448 on: September 18, 2021, 12:43:47 AM »

This is a very fair map.  Im surprised the Democrat members allowed something so fair to be released.
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« Reply #449 on: September 20, 2021, 11:05:34 AM »



Eid proposes an all-around better map, though I personally never like Ottawa-Grand Rapids.
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