Mason-Dixon: Kerry/Edwards could win NC!
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Ben.
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« on: May 19, 2004, 07:40:23 AM »

Kerry trials Bush by seven points with Nader garnering 3% and 8% remaining undecided but with Edwards added as Kerry’s VP the Democratic ticket comes into a statistical dead heat with Bush/Cheney at 46% and Kerry/Edwards at 45%.

http://www.wral.com/news/3319278/detail.html

Another interesting point, the Kerry Campaign has apparently been investigating ad buying in NC.  
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2004, 07:50:47 AM »

Mason-Dixon is a quality firm an' all...
Reason no #48512 to pick Edwards...
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2004, 08:15:42 AM »

Mason-Dixon is a quality firm an' all...
Reason no #48512 to pick Edwards...

Ditto... I when i saw the "NC POLL" thread originally... i though it'll be some crappy firm but when i saw it was MD.... YEEESSS!

He's really the only choice!.. and compensates so much for Kerry Wink  
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2004, 09:49:53 AM »

When was the last time the Dems won NC?
I can't see it myself.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2004, 09:54:33 AM »

the dems last won nc in 1976.  it isnt going to happen this time either.

a lot of laid off textiles workers are (unfortunately) wooed by edward's protectionism message.  i thought that idea was defeated 100 years ago, but i guess not.

textiles and tobacco arent coming back.  you can be like john edwards and talk about protectionism OR you can talk about economic diversification.  i choose the latter.

to kerry's credit, he isnt a protectionist and i dont think he will choose edwards as his running mate.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2004, 09:56:23 AM »

Carter 1976
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2004, 10:33:30 AM »

1976? Thought so.
He has no chance!
It'd be landslide territory before NC falls.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2004, 11:59:11 AM »

1976? Thought so.
He has no chance!
It'd be landslide territory before NC falls.

Nearly stayed Dem in 1980, nearly went Dem in 1992 and 1996.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2004, 12:18:49 PM »

North Carolina is taking on the some of the character of other "sun belt" states like AZ, NV, and NM. A lot of financial service and computer companies have sprung up recently in the Raleigh-Durham area. Of all the southern states, it will probably be the first to become a swing state.

It's 15 EVs could offset the failure of Kerry to win OH, but not the additional failure to hold PA.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2004, 12:19:26 PM »

1976? Thought so.
He has no chance!
It'd be landslide territory before NC falls.

Nearly stayed Dem in 1980, nearly went Dem in 1992 and 1996.

Agreed... Mason-Dixon as I think I said are a good firm... this is good news in the end I really don't know who it would go to, but I think that Bush would pull through by a point or two, but it really depends.    

North Carolina is not Alabama then again nor is it a traditional swing state like… say, Ohio. But that said with Edwards on the ticket and with polls in the state showing Edwards (thanks to the media’s love affair with the guy… its great!:D ) he is the most popular Democrat in the State. I think that thanks largely to that and high unemployment in NC in Textiles etc… the state could be close but only with Edwards on the ticket. But it is in the Midwest, the “Steel States” and with moderates and independents across the country that Edwards real potential as a running mate lies .          
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2004, 12:24:27 PM »

Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2004, 12:27:22 PM »

Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2004, 12:57:47 PM »

first of all, it is a false assumption that workers in the new industries in rdu are going to vote democratic.  those workers DEFINITELY arent the workers who are turned on by edward's silly pseudo-populism.

raleigh and wake county is a pretty conservative area..  durham is a heavily democratic area due to two things 1. a very high black population and 2. duke university
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2004, 02:13:35 PM »

I wonder what Edwards would do to SC, this state has has traditionally been Dem...would it put back into Lean or safe for Kerry?
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2004, 02:26:37 PM »

I wonder what Edwards would do to SC, this state has has traditionally been Dem...would it put back into Lean or safe for Kerry?

It wouldn't make it a safe state for Kerry, but it could turn S.C to Kerry not rerady to say lean yet, but along with NC it would become battleground
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2004, 02:28:27 PM »

SC is already a Battleground. It went with Clinton both times. It even went with Dukakis!
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2004, 02:32:48 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2004, 02:33:15 PM by elcorazon »

SC is already a Battleground. It went with Clinton both times. It even went with Dukakis!
SC has not gone with a democrat since 1976.  I don't know what you're talking about.
maybe you mean WV?
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2004, 02:33:41 PM »

to kerry's credit, he isnt a protectionist and i dont think he will choose edwards as his running mate.

Is that think or hope?
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2004, 02:42:57 PM »

oops...sorry all those flyover states look the same
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2004, 03:04:15 PM »

With Edwards on the ticket, I don't think Bush will carry the state by 13%, as in 2000, so I'd safely say it will be closer, but people vote for the President, not VP, and I don't see Kerry having any appeal at all in NC. I think the poll is just an initial reaction to Edwards' name on the ticket. All these polls showing normally GOP states and Dem states getting closer and closer, but in the end, most of them will probably go back the way we'd expect.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2004, 03:44:35 PM »

And of course Nader polling 3% in a state he didn't even get on the ballot for in 2000. I have a feeling that even with out Edwards on the tickets, the Democrats will do better in North Carolina and Virginia than in states like Georgia and Louisiana, where Clinton did very well. I can see electoral maps in the future showing the Dems hugging the length of the east coast in the event of any Democratic victory.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2004, 04:27:52 PM »

Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller

Zell Miller and nearly 150 other Southern Democrats have already signed on pledging that they will campaign for Bush.  Miller said that he is going to barn storm all accross the south for Bush.
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2004, 04:45:34 PM »

Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller, Zell Miller

Zell Miller and nearly 150 other Southern Democrats have already signed on pledging that they will campaign for Bush.  Miller said that he is going to barn storm all accross the south for Bush.

Bush can have the South.  It won't matter after Kerry wins Ohio, New Hampshire, Arizona and Missouri.

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2004, 05:45:24 PM »

Zell Miller is really a Republican anyway (his voting record is indistinguishable from one), so I doubt any real Democrat cares what he thinks. The only people who like him are Republicans and other "Democrats" who are just registered Democrats but really Republicans and probably would vote for Bush anyway. The same way if Lincoln Chafee endorsed Kerry and campaigned for him, I doubt it'd Kerry many more Republican votes.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2004, 06:42:59 PM »


Maybe he's talking about the fact that Zell Miller is going to campaign for Bush throughout the South.

Anyway, I'm not worried about North Carolina.
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