2020 New York Redistricting

[Suburbia]

If Malliotakis' district stretches to Park Slope, she has to temper her pro-cop language...........

If she loses, SI will want to secede. They won't accept a Max Rose/Eric Adams reign.............they will want to leave the city altogether

[Brittain33]

If Malliotakis' district stretches to Park Slope, she has to temper her pro-cop language...........

If she loses, SI will want to secede. They won't accept a Max Rose/Eric Adams reign.............they will want to leave the city altogether

...how would leaving the city change who represents them in Congress?

[BoiseBoy]

If Malliotakis' district stretches to Park Slope, she has to temper her pro-cop language...........

If she loses, SI will want to secede. They won't accept a Max Rose/Eric Adams reign.............they will want to leave the city altogether

If she is gerrymandered into a Safe D district, she is likely done no matter how she tempers her language. Staten Island will not be seceding. Don't be ridiculous.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1427389029562077188
Thoughts on this map?

This map is wonderful.

You wouldn't say that if it was Republican doing the same thing. This map is horrible and should be illegal. No party should be allowed to do this.

If Republicans win back the house because Democrats choose to disarm themselves, do you think we'll ever see any meaningful redistricting reform over the next few years? Democrats seem to care about this stuff more than Republicans for the most part. This is one instance where taking a moral high ground is not worth the longer-term consequences.

You seem way too reasonable to have a blue avatar.

[Continential]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1427389029562077188
Thoughts on this map?

This map is wonderful.

You wouldn't say that if it was Republican doing the same thing. This map is horrible and should be illegal. No party should be allowed to do this.

If Republicans win back the house because Democrats choose to disarm themselves, do you think we'll ever see any meaningful redistricting reform over the next few years? Democrats seem to care about this stuff more than Republicans for the most part. This is one instance where taking a moral high ground is not worth the longer-term consequences.

You seem way too reasonable to have a blue avatar.

I remember him joining with a D avatar

[BoiseBoy]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1427389029562077188
Thoughts on this map?

This map is wonderful.

You wouldn't say that if it was Republican doing the same thing. This map is horrible and should be illegal. No party should be allowed to do this.

If Republicans win back the house because Democrats choose to disarm themselves, do you think we'll ever see any meaningful redistricting reform over the next few years? Democrats seem to care about this stuff more than Republicans for the most part. This is one instance where taking a moral high ground is not worth the longer-term consequences.

You seem way too reasonable to have a blue avatar.

I remember him joining with a D avatar

That was an error on my part. I didn’t realize the colors on this site were reversed. I’ve been a registered Republican for a while now.

[Devils30]

My Long Island map

Districts D +9, +12, +12, and +13

Can you make a 24-2 map or 23-2-1 without VRA issues?

[Non Swing Voter]

The NY gerrymanders don't look anywhere near as ridiculous as the GOP ones in the South do.  It's a lot easier to gerrymander when a state is 2-1 Dem than 53-47 GOP I guess.  If Dems fail to gerrymander this cycle they are a lost cause and deserve to lose.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The NY gerrymanders don't look anywhere near as ridiculous as the GOP ones in the South do.  It's a lot easier to gerrymander when a state is 2-1 Dem than 53-47 GOP I guess.  If Dems fail to gerrymander this cycle they are a lost cause and deserve to lose.

The real comparison is a place like Tennessee, to be honest. TN is about as R as NY is D.

[Tintrlvr]

AOC could solve one problem herself by running against Hochul or Schumer, or pulling a Delaney and announcing a 2024 Presidential bid early and not running for reelection in 2022.

Then it would be her district getting chopped up.

There's no reason for anything meaningful to change in NYC (other than drawing a district that gets rid of Malliotakis) because NYC gained enough population that it won't lose a district, and certainly no district in NYC will be eliminated. The lost district will be entirely upstate.

[politicallefty]

My Long Island map

Districts D +9, +12, +12, and +13

Can you make a 24-2 map or 23-2-1 without VRA issues?

I've asked that same thing for awhile. NY isn't a state I have much practice drawing myself, but it seems like it'd be easier for Democrats to wipe out all downstate Republican districts on account of proximity to NYC. Long Island seems like it can easily be spaghettified. Confine Republicans to the North Country and Western NY districts. Once you've drawn those two districts, the state is probably around 2-1 Democratic for the remaining 24 districts.

[patzer]

My Long Island map

Districts D +9, +12, +12, and +13

Can you make a 24-2 map or 23-2-1 without VRA issues?

After a bit of experimenting, it's very much possible to make an all-blue Long Island without eating into the 5th, but it looks considerably uglier.

[Devils30]

Dems need every seat they can get. I would go for an all out map, Dems shouldn’t worry about the GOP’s 236th seat in a wave, they need the maps most likely to help the party win in a D+2-3 type environment.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1430339077929324544?s=20

New face, old tactics.

[Brittain33]

New face, old tactics.

This is a change from how Cuomo approached things.

[Oryxslayer]

New face, old tactics.

This is a change from how Cuomo approached things.

What I meant is that its still gonna be a gerry - aka the old way of drawing lines.

[Devils30]

Since the Rs are going to push the VRA, Dems should as well. Push some of Queens, Brooklyn into LI districts and look into the idea of bacon stripping NY-1, NY-2 and getting BOTH seats instead of packing the GOP into a very red 2nd. Dems have a better chance at 23-3 this way than against Katko who isn't losing with a Dem President.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Since the Rs are going to push the VRA, Dems should as well. Push some of Queens, Brooklyn into LI districts and look into the idea of bacon stripping NY-1, NY-2 and getting BOTH seats instead of packing the GOP into a very red 2nd. Dems have a better chance at 23-3 this way than against Katko who isn't losing with a Dem President.

That's pretty hard unless you want to knock out a black VRA seat that can objectively be drawn (current NY-5). Otherwise a bacon stripping would result in just a bunch of Biden + 3ish seats, some of which may have gone for Trump in 2016 adn would be unreliable at best.

[Stuart98]

Since the Rs are going to push the VRA, Dems should as well. Push some of Queens, Brooklyn into LI districts and look into the idea of bacon stripping NY-1, NY-2 and getting BOTH seats instead of packing the GOP into a very red 2nd. Dems have a better chance at 23-3 this way than against Katko who isn't losing with a Dem President.

That's pretty hard unless you want to knock out a black VRA seat that can objectively be drawn (current NY-5). Otherwise a bacon stripping would result in just a bunch of Biden + 3ish seats, some of which may have gone for Trump in 2016 adn would be unreliable at best.

Working on a map right now with a plurality black (40%) NY-05. It's 30% Republican, so it should perform as a black VRA seat because black voters should constitute a majority in the primary.

[Suburbia]

Even if NYDP makes a map that would see bluer Long Island districts, those Democrats would be Blue Dogs or New Democrats.

A DSA-type candidate cannot win LI....

A DSA-type candidate would not even win places like Canarsie and Mill Basin, Canarsie has at least 5%-30% of white voters that would vote for someone like Hakeem Jeffries over Charles Barron...

[Stuart98]

A proposal so modest there will never be proposed a proposal more modest in the history of modest proposals:



2012/2016 PVI:


President 2020 Results:

[Brittain33]

Cool, what the state really needed was a district combining Monsey and New Square with the Thousand Islands

[Tintrlvr]

Since the Rs are going to push the VRA, Dems should as well. Push some of Queens, Brooklyn into LI districts and look into the idea of bacon stripping NY-1, NY-2 and getting BOTH seats instead of packing the GOP into a very red 2nd. Dems have a better chance at 23-3 this way than against Katko who isn't losing with a Dem President.

That's pretty hard unless you want to knock out a black VRA seat that can objectively be drawn (current NY-5). Otherwise a bacon stripping would result in just a bunch of Biden + 3ish seats, some of which may have gone for Trump in 2016 adn would be unreliable at best.

Working on a map right now with a plurality black (40%) NY-05. It's 30% Republican, so it should perform as a black VRA seat because black voters should constitute a majority in the primary.

May work for VRA reasons but still is unlikely to be viable politically in NY.

[Devils30]

A proposal so modest there will never be proposed a proposal more modest in the history of modest proposals:



2012/2016 PVI:


President 2020 Results:

Dems should go for it, what the hell do they have to lose? In a D+2 type year it could potentially save their majority.

[Non Swing Voter]

A proposal so modest there will never be proposed a proposal more modest in the history of modest proposals:



2012/2016 PVI:


President 2020 Results:

Loving this gerrymander.  It looks like it's 24-2?  Plus it screws Stefanik.  Beautiful.