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« Reply #900 on: January 24, 2021, 12:39:22 PM »

Very interesting to see that they have a portrait of the candidate on the ballot! It'd be fascinating to see if there have been any studies done on what effect that might have--e.g., if candidates with conventionally attractive portraits do better than polling would indicate, or vice-versa, or if "standing out" marginally increases vote share.

Like, as the only woman in a ballot full of men and the only candidate who could reasonably be described as approaching hot, I'd have to think dos Santos Matias gets at least a bit of a boost.
She may look a bit manly, but Ana Gomes is a woman too Tongue
Well, there's the urban legend that Ana Gomes is just comedian Herman José disguised as a woman:

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Hehe this is what I was referencing to xD

The turnout numbers Purple heart
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« Reply #901 on: January 24, 2021, 12:47:10 PM »

Hehe this is what I was referencing to xD

The turnout numbers Purple heart
Hahaha. I know, I know. Wink

About turnout, lines seem to be dissipating across the country, but in Lisbon there are still some lines of people waiting to vote, it seems.
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« Reply #902 on: January 24, 2021, 12:50:52 PM »

For anyone interested, here's the live feed of the TV networks for election night:

RTP1: https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1
RTP3: https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp3
SIC: https://sic.pt/direto
TVI: https://tviplayer.oil.pt/direto/TVI
TVI24: https://tviplayer.oil.pt/direto/TVI24

I don't think non of them are geoblocked.

Results pages:

https://www.rtp.pt/eleicoes/presidenciais-resultados/2021

https://www.presidenciais2021.mai.gov.pt/afluencia
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« Reply #903 on: January 24, 2021, 01:23:17 PM »

RTP is talking to reporters in campaign headquarters by this order: Marcelo, Ana Gomes, André Ventura, Joćo Ferreira, Marisa Matias, Tiago Mayan, Tino de Rans.

It could mean nothing, but it's still interesting.
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« Reply #904 on: January 24, 2021, 01:26:40 PM »

Very interesting to see that they have a portrait of the candidate on the ballot! It'd be fascinating to see if there have been any studies done on what effect that might have--e.g., if candidates with conventionally attractive portraits do better than polling would indicate, or vice-versa, or if "standing out" marginally increases vote share.

Like, as the only woman in a ballot full of men and the only candidate who could reasonably be described as approaching hot, I'd have to think dos Santos Matias gets at least a bit of a boost.
She may look a bit manly, but Ana Gomes is a woman too Tongue
Well, there's the urban legend that Ana Gomes is just comedian Herman José disguised as a woman:

Grin Grin Grin Grin

"Approaching hot" is a rather sexist remark, as well as the urban legends about Ana Gomes

Said this, attractiveness is a factor that undeniably helps in boosting the popularity of someone (politicians included). But maybe atractiveness works better in TV, because pictures in ballots are neccessarily small. Also, and this is another sign of sexism and male perspective, you seem to forget that more than a half of voters are women. Presumably most of them are heterosexual, thus more sensible to the charles of male candidates looking like JFK or Barack Obama (to put a couple of examples of toung male attractive candidates). Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is not that type of candidate,  but surely he has other qualities that make him popular. For sure there has been never discussion on whether Rebelo is hot or not. This usually hapoens with female candidates
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« Reply #905 on: January 24, 2021, 01:30:28 PM »

CMTV projection says that turnout will be between 42-46%.
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« Reply #906 on: January 24, 2021, 01:34:42 PM »

Polls close in 26 minutes in mainland Portugal and Madeira. RTP, SIC and TVI will, at that hour, release turnout projections.
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« Reply #907 on: January 24, 2021, 01:39:19 PM »

Line of people wainting to vote in Lisbon, just after 6pm:


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« Reply #908 on: January 24, 2021, 01:55:02 PM »

5 minutes until the first polls close.
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« Reply #909 on: January 24, 2021, 01:55:20 PM »

RTP is talking to reporters in campaign headquarters by this order: Marcelo, Ana Gomes, André Ventura, Joćo Ferreira, Marisa Matias, Tiago Mayan, Tino de Rans.

It could mean nothing, but it's still interesting.
This is the order I expect. Joćo Ferreira had a better campaign than Marisa, and the rest is pretty much as expected.
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« Reply #910 on: January 24, 2021, 02:00:11 PM »

RTP is talking to reporters in campaign headquarters by this order: Marcelo, Ana Gomes, André Ventura, Joćo Ferreira, Marisa Matias, Tiago Mayan, Tino de Rans.

It could mean nothing, but it's still interesting.
This is the order I expect. Joćo Ferreira had a better campaign than Marisa, and the rest is pretty much as expected.
We'll see. Twitter is already flooded with "rumored" exit polls, as always.
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« Reply #911 on: January 24, 2021, 02:02:45 PM »

Polls have closed in mainland Portugal and Madeira:

Turnout projections:

RTP: 45-50%
SIC: 40-44%
TVI: 41.5-45.5%
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« Reply #912 on: January 24, 2021, 02:07:51 PM »

RTP is talking to reporters in campaign headquarters by this order: Marcelo, Ana Gomes, André Ventura, Joćo Ferreira, Marisa Matias, Tiago Mayan, Tino de Rans.

It could mean nothing, but it's still interesting.
This is the order I expect. Joćo Ferreira had a better campaign than Marisa, and the rest is pretty much as expected.

Huh? I remember seeing Matias always above Ferreira in the polls? Do you think there has been a late shift because of their campaigns?
Although granted, the difference was always small and polls are imperfect anyway.
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« Reply #913 on: January 24, 2021, 02:12:19 PM »

RTP is talking to reporters in campaign headquarters by this order: Marcelo, Ana Gomes, André Ventura, Joćo Ferreira, Marisa Matias, Tiago Mayan, Tino de Rans.

It could mean nothing, but it's still interesting.
This is the order I expect. Joćo Ferreira had a better campaign than Marisa, and the rest is pretty much as expected.

Huh? I remember seeing Matias always above Ferreira in the polls? Do you think there has been a late shift because of their campaigns?
Although granted, the difference was always small and polls are imperfect anyway.
Actually the last polls of the campaign were putting Ferreira above or tied with Marisa Matias. I believe only one poll was putting Matias above Ferreira. Matias could be victim, also, of tactical voting for Ana Gomes. But, all of this are hypothesis. Let's wait for 8pm.
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« Reply #914 on: January 24, 2021, 02:20:49 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2021, 02:24:03 PM by Mike88 »

Almost unanimous claim by pundits on TV: With these turnout numbers, a 2nd round will probably not be needed.
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« Reply #915 on: January 24, 2021, 02:30:56 PM »

There are still people voting and wainting in line in Lisbon.
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« Reply #916 on: January 24, 2021, 02:38:39 PM »

President Marcelo's press conferences outside his house are always a delight. Cheesy
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« Reply #917 on: January 24, 2021, 02:44:56 PM »

15 minutes...
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« Reply #918 on: January 24, 2021, 02:55:06 PM »

5 minutes...
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« Reply #919 on: January 24, 2021, 03:00:40 PM »

PRESIDENT MARCELO REELECTED FOR A 2ND TERM.
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« Reply #920 on: January 24, 2021, 03:03:40 PM »

RTP exit poll:

Marcelo: 57-62%
Gomes: 13-16%
Ventura 9-12%
Matias: 3,5-5,5%
Ferreira: 3,5-5,5%
Tiago Mayan: 3-5%
Tino de Rans: 2-4%
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« Reply #921 on: January 24, 2021, 03:06:18 PM »

SIC exit poll:

Marcelo: 55,5-60,5%
Gomes: 13,1-17,1%
Ventura: 10,1-14,1%
Ferreira: 3,3-6,3%
Matias: 2,4-5,4%
Tiago Mayan: 2,3-5,3%
Tino de Rans: 1,3-3,3%

TVI exit poll:

Marcelo: 56,4-60,4%
Gomes: 12,2-16,2%
Ventura: 9,9-13,9%
Tiago Mayan: 2,3-6,3%
Matias: 2,2-6,2%
Ferreira: 2,1-6,1%
Tino de Rans: 0,9-4,9%

CMTV exit poll:

Marcelo: 55,8-60,6%
Gomes: 12,7-16,3%
Ventura: 10,1-13,7%
Matias: 3,1%-5,5%
Tiago Mayan: 3-5,4%
Ferreira: 2,9-5,3%
Tino de Rans: 1,6-4%
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« Reply #922 on: January 24, 2021, 03:13:01 PM »

Results so far:

51.5% counted:

66.1% Marcelo
12.3% Ventura
  9.3% Gomes
  3.8% Tino de Rans
  3.4% Matias
  3.2% Ferreira
  1.9% Tiago Mayan

Results with maps: https://observador.pt/interativo/presidenciais-veja-aqui-a-contagem-de-votos-ao-minuto-e-freguesia-a-freguesia/
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« Reply #923 on: January 24, 2021, 03:22:48 PM »

So far, Marcelo is leading in every single municipality in the country.
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« Reply #924 on: January 24, 2021, 03:38:08 PM »

So far, Marcelo is leading in every single municipality in the country.

I assume it won't last - I can't imagine he will end up winning the most blood red Alentejo municipalities.
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