Impeachment Megathread Part 3

[Nyvin]

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1220078337000906754

[Progressive Pessimist]

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1220078337000906754

I really wish he was part of the trial...

[Gass3268]

Depends on how slow or fast the managers use their time, but if they take 3 days then Trump's defense gets Saturday to present their case which would get more views than the Democrats because more people would be able to watch on a weekend.

Other than sports, Saturday is one of the worst days for TV viewership.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1220111887418916864

[Nyvin]

Depends on how slow or fast the managers use their time, but if they take 3 days then Trump's defense gets Saturday to present their case which would get more views than the Democrats because more people would be able to watch on a weekend.

Other than sports, Saturday is one of the worst days for TV viewership.

Yep,  main reason agencies do "Friday News Dumps" frequently with stuff they don't want the public to pay attention to.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Depends on how slow or fast the managers use their time, but if they take 3 days then Trump's defense gets Saturday to present their case which would get more views than the Democrats because more people would be able to watch on a weekend.

Other than sports, Saturday is one of the worst days for TV viewership.

There are TV shows other than sports on Saturdays?

[2016]

So now the new defense line from senate R’s is to cry that Nadler’s comments hurt their feelings

Per CNN & Spokesperson for Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski "She was very offended" by Nadlers Comment.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's spokesperson said the Alaska lawmaker was “offended” by House Impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler’s comments at the trial that if senators didn’t support the need for witnesses in the impeachment trial, they were "voting for a cover-up."

“I took it as very offensive. As one who is listening attentively and working hard to get to a fair process, I was offended,” Murkowski said Wednesday, according to her aide Karina Borger.

Murkowski is a key swing GOP vote.

Another one of those missteps by Mr. Nadler and Murkowski might be gone for Democrats.

But then, what do you expect from Nadler considering he is a purely partisan hack.

Nadler, Schiff, Demings and Jeffries are acting often like spoiled brats.

The lone Impeachment Manager I genuinly like listening to is Jason Crow. While I don't like the case he is making against Trump the guy at least acts like you should act in the United States Senate.

[NOVA Green]

So just walked in the door a few minutes ago from work and was expecting to see another 15+ additional pages of posts, but yet there was hardly any....

What new revelations have popped up, or highlight moments that might have impacted Senators or US public opinion?

Are there themes that are being accentuated from the House Managers that were previously raised Yesterday as lead-up to the votes, or interesting performances from the President's lawyers?

[Hindsight was 2020]

So now the new defense line from senate R’s is to cry that Nadler’s comments hurt their feelings

Per CNN & Spokesperson for Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski "She was very offended" by Nadlers Comment.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's spokesperson said the Alaska lawmaker was “offended” by House Impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler’s comments at the trial that if senators didn’t support the need for witnesses in the impeachment trial, they were "voting for a cover-up."

“I took it as very offensive. As one who is listening attentively and working hard to get to a fair process, I was offended,” Murkowski said Wednesday, according to her aide Karina Borger.

Murkowski is a key swing GOP vote.

Another one of those missteps by Mr. Nadler and Murkowski might be gone for Democrats.

But then, what do you expect from Nadler considering he is a purely partisan hack.

Nadler, Schiff, Demings and Jeffries are acting often like spoiled brats.

The lone Impeachment Manager I genuinly like listening to is Jason Crow. While I don't like the case he is making against Trump the guy at least acts like you should act in the United States Senate.

God you guys are bad faith hacks

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

So now the new defense line from senate R’s is to cry that Nadler’s comments hurt their feelings

Per CNN & Spokesperson for Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski "She was very offended" by Nadlers Comment.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's spokesperson said the Alaska lawmaker was “offended” by House Impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler’s comments at the trial that if senators didn’t support the need for witnesses in the impeachment trial, they were "voting for a cover-up."

“I took it as very offensive. As one who is listening attentively and working hard to get to a fair process, I was offended,” Murkowski said Wednesday, according to her aide Karina Borger.

Murkowski is a key swing GOP vote.

Another one of those missteps by Mr. Nadler and Murkowski might be gone for Democrats.

But then, what do you expect from Nadler considering he is a purely partisan hack.

Nadler, Schiff, Demings and Jeffries are acting often like spoiled brats.

The lone Impeachment Manager I genuinly like listening to is Jason Crow. While I don't like the case he is making against Trump the guy at least acts like you should act in the United States Senate.

You are a Russian bot.

[NOVA Green]

Schiff: "Do you want the truth now or later?"

[Cinemark]

It has become readily apparent in the last few days that there is no chance any republican senator will break with McConnell. We'll probably see more comments from Murkowski, Romney and Collins about how upset they are with the process but thats just icing on an already baked cake.

[Badger]

Jay Sekulow looks like somebody just ate his child.

He is right. Since when is Executive Priviledge utter nonsense!

It isn’t, but it’s like the 5th amendment, when you invoke it, you are most likely doing that to try and avoid your own sh!t hitting the fan.

And in this case it is bu!!$hit. There has to be a basis for the privilege other than "I dont wanna". Trump is trying to misuse it as if it is the equivalent of the 5th.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Here's how the votes are gonna go down in the history books
For impeachment (House): Democrats and an Independent
Against impeachment (House): Democrats and Republicans

For removal (Senate): Democrats and Independents
Against removal (Senate): Republicans

[Calthrina950]

So now the new defense line from senate R’s is to cry that Nadler’s comments hurt their feelings

Per CNN & Spokesperson for Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski "She was very offended" by Nadlers Comment.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's spokesperson said the Alaska lawmaker was “offended” by House Impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler’s comments at the trial that if senators didn’t support the need for witnesses in the impeachment trial, they were "voting for a cover-up."

“I took it as very offensive. As one who is listening attentively and working hard to get to a fair process, I was offended,” Murkowski said Wednesday, according to her aide Karina Borger.

Murkowski is a key swing GOP vote.

Another one of those missteps by Mr. Nadler and Murkowski might be gone for Democrats.

But then, what do you expect from Nadler considering he is a purely partisan hack.

Nadler, Schiff, Demings and Jeffries are acting often like spoiled brats.

The lone Impeachment Manager I genuinly like listening to is Jason Crow. While I don't like the case he is making against Trump the guy at least acts like you should act in the United States Senate.

You are a Russian bot.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a Russian bot? That's an unfair characterization, and one made too often on these boards. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Nadler went over the line with what he said. If Murkowski-who is one of only three Senate Republicans (Collins and Romney being the others), with which there is a greater than zero probability that they might vote to convict Trump-was upset by what he said, then you know it didn't go well with Collins or Romney, and certainly not with the rest of the Republican caucus. He only reinforced their conviction to acquit Trump.

[GeneralMacArthur]

So now the new defense line from senate R’s is to cry that Nadler’s comments hurt their feelings

Per CNN & Spokesperson for Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski "She was very offended" by Nadlers Comment.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski's spokesperson said the Alaska lawmaker was “offended” by House Impeachment manager Rep. Jerry Nadler’s comments at the trial that if senators didn’t support the need for witnesses in the impeachment trial, they were "voting for a cover-up."

“I took it as very offensive. As one who is listening attentively and working hard to get to a fair process, I was offended,” Murkowski said Wednesday, according to her aide Karina Borger.

Murkowski is a key swing GOP vote.

Another one of those missteps by Mr. Nadler and Murkowski might be gone for Democrats.

But then, what do you expect from Nadler considering he is a purely partisan hack.

Nadler, Schiff, Demings and Jeffries are acting often like spoiled brats.

The lone Impeachment Manager I genuinly like listening to is Jason Crow. While I don't like the case he is making against Trump the guy at least acts like you should act in the United States Senate.

You are a Russian bot.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a Russian bot? That's an unfair characterization, and one made too often on these boards. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Nadler went over the line with what he said. If Murkowski-who is one of only three Senate Republicans (Collins and Romney being the others), with which there is a greater than zero probability that they might vote to convict Trump-was upset by what he said, then you know it didn't go well with Collins or Romney, and certainly not with the rest of the Republican caucus. He only reinforced their conviction to acquit Trump.

It's a foregone conclusion that Murkowski is going to vote as part of the McConnell bloc.  She will block all testimony, block all witnesses, block all evidence, block all subpoenas, vote to acquit, and try to stay as far out of the spotlight as possible.

Nobody wants to be the one senator who breaks ranks.

Her spokesperson putting out whiny statements like this is just a lame attempt to build the case for her being a partisan hack.  As if voting to block key witnesses from testifying in a criminal trial for no good reason is anything but a cover-up attempt.

And I say this as someone who has a lot of respect for Murkowski.   At the end of the day, Trump has a knife to her throat, and she'll cave like the rest of the Republicans.  The only way they can overcome this menace is to unite... get 20 of them together and agree that enough is enough... but there are too many spineless cowards in the party to make that possible.

[wbrocks67]

It has become readily apparent in the last few days that there is no chance any republican senator will break with McConnell. We'll probably see more comments from Murkowski, Romney and Collins about how upset they are with the process but thats just icing on an already baked cake.

THIS. That's why it's laughable and such bad faith that pundits on the networks (esp CNN) keep pushing the "Well what are you doing to get Republicans on board? Are the Dems making enough of a case?!!!" as if it was ever going to happen in the first place

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/AntoinePierce/status/1220184970469281793

[wbrocks67]

The polls keep moving in the wrong direction for Trump:

https://twitter.com/ameliatd/status/1220348769931317249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctw...

[pbrower2a]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220017667387445248

That is literally all lies

The big problem is not that we have a big liar, someone who has learned well what Hitler said of the Big Lie. The problem is that so many people are gullible, that they have no tests for truth, and that many accept flagrant lies because such soothes them.

Objective reality can be unspeakably unpleasant (with the Stage 4 lung cancer that you have, you have only three months in which to live), but what else does one have? Maybe in three months one might be able to tie up some loose ends in life.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Look, while I totally get the long hours and appreciate that this is a massive shift from Senate business-as-usual, the fact that almost a quarter of the Senators in attendance (both Democrats and Republicans) were reportedly either walking in and out of the proceedings, doing crosswords, etc. etc. is absolutely ridiculous.  

Again, I understand stretching your legs, bathroom breaks, or getting some water.  And it's not the most mentally-stimulating material.  But if you're not willing to perform an official duty of the Senate -- no matter how uncommon a duty that may be, then don't run for the Senate.

You don't have to agree with what's being said.  But ffs, at least pretend to care.    

Feel like I'm a college professor chewing out my class here lol.  

[Frodo]

The polls keep moving in the wrong direction for Trump:

https://twitter.com/ameliatd/status/1220348769931317249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctw...

Wait, nearly 20% of Republicans now support the conviction and removal of Donald Trump?   

We're getting there... 

[hurricanehink]

The polls keep moving in the wrong direction for Trump:

https://twitter.com/ameliatd/status/1220348769931317249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctw...

How are those Dems #’s possible? It adds up to 102.9 🤔

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

The polls keep moving in the wrong direction for Trump:

https://twitter.com/ameliatd/status/1220348769931317249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctw...

How are those Dems #’s possible? It adds up to 102.9 🤔

Alternative maths.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

The polls keep moving in the wrong direction for Trump:

https://twitter.com/ameliatd/status/1220348769931317249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctw...

How are those Dems #’s possible? It adds up to 102.9 🤔

"Table shows responses to two different questions, so answers should not add up to 100 percent."