HB 21-20: Breakout Act (Final Vote)

[thumb21]

So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

[thumb21]

My reading of the federal law on this subject is that you can currently get a 5 year sentence for escaping; I'd be open to reducing this with very specific circumstances & tight rules- along with trying to fix the issues that other people identified.

Rather than tabling this I'm happy to amend & then move to a final vote where people can vote it down (and requires less votes to fail then it does to table iirc)

I think this would be reasonable.

[Pericles]

So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

[thumb21]

So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

It was seconded by RC, but I agree with you that we should wait for the amendment.

[Pericles]

So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

It was seconded by RC, but I agree with you that we should wait for the amendment.

My interpretation of what RC said after reading it and asking him is that he said he might second the tabling motion in the future but isn't doing so rn (due to the possibility of an amendment)

[Blair]

I'll have an amendment up in 24 hours.

[Blair]

SENATE BILL

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

Breakout Act

SECTION 1.
Recognizing that human nature is to want to be free,

1. No additional prison sentence penalty of more than three years may be imposed for successful or attempted escape by an inmate from an Atlasian federal or military prison, provided no human being is intentionally physically harmed, assaulted, threatened, held hostage or imprisoned during the attempt, with the following exceptions:
a. Prisoners may be fined for an amount not exceeding the cost to repair any part of a prison facility that was damaged during the escape attempt.

1B. This shall not apply to anyone found abetting, aiding or helping with another inmates escape attempt

2. Crimes committed while an escaped prisoner is on the run may be prosecuted accordingly.

[Pericles]

24 hours to object to Blair’s amendment.

[RC (a la Frémont)]

I won’t object, but I don’t know if it’s far away enough from the original bill to be acceptable.

[thumb21]

3 years is, I think, a reasonable punishment for escaping and will vote for the bill in this form.

[thumb21]

Motion for a final vote

[Pericles]

Ok so yes the amendment is adopted with no objection. 24 hours to object to the final vote motion.

[Pericles]

With no objection, a final vote has begun on this bill. Representatives have 72 hours to vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Former President tack50]

Well, after a quick research, I looked into this and it seems that the current penalty for federal prison escapes is 5 years, and can be shorter under certain circumstances (I think crimes made by minors?)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/751

I think the exception in current laws is a rather narrow one that can be scrapped (plus I guess it doesn't affect current prisoners? I have absolutely no idea how the US / Atlasia work on this kind of stuff), so I will still vote for this even if it is not a great bill by now.

Honestly should have objected while I still had time.

Aye (recluctantly)

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Aye

[Elcaspar]

Aye

[RC (a la Frémont)]

ehhhhhh idk, I don't have a good feeling about this bill, but I'd be fine if it passed.

Nay

[fhtagn]

Nay

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Nay

[thumb21]

Aye

[Blair]

abstain

[Pericles]

This bill has passed 4-3-1-1.
Aye; 4 (tack50, razze, Elcaspar, thumb21)
Nay; 3 (ReaganClinton, fhtagn, LouisvilleThunder)
Abstaining; 1 (Blair)
Not voting;  1 (lfromnj)