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« on: December 25, 2019, 08:58:44 AM »

What county or counties will have the highest percent of white evangelical support for a Democrat in 2020?
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 08:59:17 AM »

For the purposes of this thread, Atlanta and Nashville, etc do not count.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 10:07:52 AM »

Evangelicals already said Trump should resign. The Pope isn't too keen on Trump as well. He feels the same way as he did about Boehner. Most conservative evangelicals will sit home or vote third party.

Trump hasnt done anything on urban poverty, the Catholic church does want the needy to be attended to, which Trump has not.
 
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2019, 12:07:13 PM »

Foard, TX & Yalobusha, MS (if we're talking about totally rural counties, anyway)
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2019, 02:42:20 PM »

Evangelicals already said Trump should resign. The Pope isn't too keen on Trump as well. He feels the same way as he did about Boehner. Most conservative evangelicals will sit home or vote third party.

Trump hasnt done anything on urban poverty, the Catholic church does want the needy to be attended to, which Trump has not.
 

One magazine's editor called for Trump's removal. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2019, 06:21:22 PM »

I have no real clue
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2019, 07:20:23 PM »

Foard, TX & Yalobusha, MS (if we're talking about totally rural counties, anyway)
Any reason you found these 2?
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2019, 07:24:24 PM »

For the purposes of this thread, Atlanta and Nashville, etc do not count.

That's pretty arbitrary and has no real logic.

Anyway two big ones would be Washtenaw, MI and Dane, WI.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2019, 08:15:34 PM »

Foard, TX & Yalobusha, MS (if we're talking about totally rural counties, anyway)
Any reason you found these 2?

Very high evangelical population percentages in 2010 (86-87%) + relatively high Clinton %s in 2016 (22% and 42%, respectively). Foard County is a fairly interesting place if you're intrigued by how Texas primaries have historically worked; I don't think they had any GOP primary there whatsoever until the past cycle; see how it sticks out on the 2016 presidential primary county map. Yalobusha may be one of those weird places where black evangelicals actually exist en masse and propped up Clinton's vote, however.
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2019, 08:17:32 PM »

Hennepin County, MN. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 10:15:21 AM »

For the purposes of this thread, Atlanta and Nashville, etc do not count.

That's pretty arbitrary and has no real logic.

Anyway two big ones would be Washtenaw, MI and Dane, WI.
Makes sense. I'm just looking where Dems can improve with these voters outside of the beltway in 2020.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2019, 11:50:09 AM »

Here's a map for you:

https://gizmodo.com/americas-educational-achievement-mapped-1486344148
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2019, 11:51:58 AM »

For the purposes of this thread, Atlanta and Nashville, etc do not count.

That's pretty arbitrary and has no real logic.

Anyway two big ones would be Washtenaw, MI and Dane, WI.

Makes sense. I'm just looking where Dems can improve with these voters outside of the beltway in 2020.

As a former Dane County Evangelical, I can tell you that Dane County Evangelicals will have a lot of Democratic voters. Since Dane County is fully saturated, it won't make much of a difference, however.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2019, 01:43:02 PM »

Most conservative evangelicals will sit home or vote third party.

A surprising amount may sit out this election. But "most" will certainly vote for trump.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2019, 07:53:00 PM »

I would have guessed somewhere in Tennessee
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2019, 01:25:46 PM »

I realize this was probably a joke about me, but this is legitimately good pick for a county with a notably high portion of white evangelical Democrats.

It's not just the emergent crowd. I'm sure there's more than a few educated whites in places like Eden Prairie who attend a megachurch or some non-denominational evangelical church but aren't super socially conservative and find Trump repulsive. Obama in 2008 won a third of white evangelicals in Minnesota and no doubt higher in Hennepin County. Hillary's performance in Hennepin County indicates she had to at least match that.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2019, 06:44:20 PM »

Potentially New York County, NY (Manhattan) given most white Evangelicals there are professional class types as exemplified by Tim Keller's Redeemer Presbyterian Church. Hard to see Trump winning that congregation.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2019, 07:01:13 PM »

I realize this was probably a joke about me, but this is legitimately good pick for a county with a notably high portion of white evangelical Democrats.

It's not just the emergent crowd. I'm sure there's more than a few educated whites in places like Eden Prairie who attend a megachurch or some non-denominational evangelical church but aren't super socially conservative and find Trump repulsive. Obama in 2008 won a third of white evangelicals in Minnesota and no doubt higher in Hennepin County. Hillary's performance in Hennepin County indicates she had to at least match that.
It actually wasn't a joke about you.  

I was referring to not only Emergent and non-denom types, but also more moderate people who attend LCMS or PCA churches, especially the former, given Lutheranism's large presence in Minnesota.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2019, 11:50:45 PM »

I've only ever met one white Evangelical Christian Democrat and they turned out to actually be Methodist
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2019, 02:18:49 AM »

Potentially New York County, NY (Manhattan) given most white Evangelicals there are professional class types as exemplified by Tim Keller's Redeemer Presbyterian Church. Hard to see Trump winning that congregation.

Hard to see Dems winning them either though.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2019, 04:42:41 AM »

Evangelicals and Catholics are conservative on social issues, but just the Pope, they are concerned with Urban Poverty; consequently,  Palin, Romney and Trump, have never spoke to Dems about the need to lift people out of poverty. McCain, Reagan, Nixon and Bush W, had programs in place that were pro growth agendas. Since 2010, the GOP have stopped being a pro-immigration party, and been only been about tax cuts and entitlement cuts
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2020, 07:49:57 PM »

Evangelicals and Catholics are conservative on social issues, but just the Pope, they are concerned with Urban Poverty; consequently,  Palin, Romney and Trump, have never spoke to Dems about the need to lift people out of poverty. McCain, Reagan, Nixon and Bush W, had programs in place that were pro growth agendas. Since 2010, the GOP have stopped being a pro-immigration party, and been only been about tax cuts and entitlement cuts
I think a good candidate could be in Ohio or Kentucky
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2020, 07:51:17 PM »

Evangelicals and Catholics are conservative on social issues, but just the Pope, they are concerned with Urban Poverty; consequently,  Palin, Romney and Trump, have never spoke to Dems about the need to lift people out of poverty. McCain, Reagan, Nixon and Bush W, had programs in place that were pro growth agendas. Since 2010, the GOP have stopped being a pro-immigration party, and been only been about tax cuts and entitlement cuts
I think a good candidate could be in Ohio or Kentucky
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