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« Reply #1425 on: July 14, 2022, 03:27:55 PM »

Trump declaring before the midterms is just about the best thing that could happen for the Democrats at this point. If he can’t help but make the election about himself that might keep a few wavering Dem voters on board.
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« Reply #1426 on: July 14, 2022, 08:02:34 PM »

Trump declaring before the midterms is just about the best thing that could happen for the Democrats at this point. If he can’t help but make the election about himself that might keep a few wavering Dem voters on board.

I agree, and that the prospect that he'll run again along with the Dobbs decision is going to be a huge motivation for the Democrats. It'll be a push that will be about 95% of the strength of the Dem wave of 2018, and will help Dems keep control of both chambers of Congress.
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« Reply #1427 on: July 14, 2022, 08:08:00 PM »

Trump declaring before the midterms is just about the best thing that could happen for the Democrats at this point. If he can’t help but make the election about himself that might keep a few wavering Dem voters on board.

I agree, and that the prospect that he'll run again along with the Dobbs decision is going to be a huge motivation for the Democrats. It'll be a push that will be about 95% of the strength of the Dem wave of 2018, and will help Dems keep control of both chambers of Congress.

It really doesn't matter what happens, Biden's too unpopular for Democrats to keep the House or the Senate.
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« Reply #1428 on: July 14, 2022, 08:11:31 PM »

Trump declaring before the midterms is just about the best thing that could happen for the Democrats at this point. If he can’t help but make the election about himself that might keep a few wavering Dem voters on board.

I agree, and that the prospect that he'll run again along with the Dobbs decision is going to be a huge motivation for the Democrats. It'll be a push that will be about 95% of the strength of the Dem wave of 2018, and will help Dems keep control of both chambers of Congress.

I don’t think Democrats are going to hold both houses, but I think it’s the sort of thing that could soften the losses to something more reasonable.
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« Reply #1429 on: July 14, 2022, 11:57:35 PM »

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/13/trump-2024-secret-donor-dinners-00045665

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Donald Trump has quietly convened some of his wealthiest and highest-profile supporters for intimate dinners in recent weeks, where the groups have talked about the former president’s 2024 election plans — and debated when he should make his expected comeback bid official.

The gatherings have taken place in Houston, Nashville and, last Friday evening, in Las Vegas, where billionaire casino mogul and longtime Trump friend Phil Ruffin implored the ex-president to launch another run for the White House soon. The consensus has been that Trump should run again — the only question being when he should announce, with most echoing Ruffin’s view but others saying Trump would be better served by waiting until after the midterm elections.
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During the gatherings, which typically go on for several hours, Trump has refrained from tipping his hand about his plans. While those close to him are convinced he will run, they say it’s unclear if he will announce before or after the midterm elections. And they caution that predicting what the famously unpredictable Trump will do is a fool’s errand.
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« Reply #1430 on: July 15, 2022, 04:07:21 PM »



I will abandon Trump in a second if Tucker runs.
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« Reply #1431 on: July 15, 2022, 04:18:19 PM »


I will abandon Trump in a second if Tucker runs.

Tucker vs. Trump?

Someone pass me some popcorn.
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« Reply #1432 on: July 15, 2022, 04:19:17 PM »

Tucker vs. Trump?

Someone pass me some popcorn.
If Tucker runs, I think it would be because Trump isn't. But it would be interesting regardless.

Tucker (with Trump's endorsement) vs DeSantis would be a fascinating map.
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« Reply #1433 on: July 15, 2022, 05:16:53 PM »

Tucker vs. Trump?

Someone pass me some popcorn.
If Tucker runs, I think it would be because Trump isn't. But it would be interesting regardless.

Tucker (with Trump's endorsement) vs DeSantis would be a fascinating map.

It was long thought DeSantis wouldn't run unless Trump didn't. Now look where we are.
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« Reply #1434 on: July 15, 2022, 05:18:04 PM »

It was long thought DeSantis wouldn't run unless Trump didn't. Now look where we are.
This is still the case, imo. A shadow primary is going on behind the scenes. Only one will actually declare.
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« Reply #1435 on: July 15, 2022, 05:29:19 PM »

 I don’t think Tucker is actually running.
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« Reply #1436 on: July 15, 2022, 05:35:52 PM »

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« Reply #1437 on: July 15, 2022, 05:46:01 PM »

I don’t think Tucker is actually running.

Doesn't sound like he's going to endorse Trump either.

#3 sounds nothing like Trump.
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« Reply #1438 on: July 15, 2022, 07:19:48 PM »


I will abandon Trump in a second if Tucker runs.
Tucker has said he won't run in 2024
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« Reply #1439 on: July 15, 2022, 07:22:36 PM »


I will abandon Trump in a second if Tucker runs.
Tucker has said he won't run in 2024
There isn't enough in it for him, and he's already relevant. Why throw that away for a chancy  presidential run?
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« Reply #1440 on: July 16, 2022, 04:00:01 AM »


I will abandon Trump in a second if Tucker runs.
Tucker has said he won't run in 2024

Hillary also said she's not going to run in 2013/14, just as Warren said in 2018.

Anyway, I'd even take DeathSantis any day of the week over this lunatic.
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« Reply #1441 on: July 16, 2022, 06:08:32 PM »

Pritzker dodges the question on 2024:

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2022/07/14/politics/jb-pritzker-2024-presidential-run-n6hjn1me0n/

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Asked about renewed conversation over whether President Joe Biden should remain the Democrats’ standard-bearer ahead of the 2024 election, Pritzker would not rule out running if Biden did not. He was thinking more about his political future in Illinois.

“I’m focused on my own [2022] reelection,” Pritzker said.

Meanwhile, here’s Youngkin on 2024:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3551508-youngkin-on-running-in-2024-thats-not-a-decision-we-have-even-begun-to-undertake/

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Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) said on Sunday he was “hugely humbled” by people calling on him to run for president in 2024 but said he has not come close to making such a decision.

“That’s not a decision that we have even begun to undertake,” Youngkin told CBS “Face the Nation” guest moderator Robert Costa.
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« Reply #1442 on: July 17, 2022, 12:05:32 PM »

Pritzker dodges the question on 2024:

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2022/07/14/politics/jb-pritzker-2024-presidential-run-n6hjn1me0n/

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Asked about renewed conversation over whether President Joe Biden should remain the Democrats’ standard-bearer ahead of the 2024 election, Pritzker would not rule out running if Biden did not. He was thinking more about his political future in Illinois.

“I’m focused on my own [2022] reelection,” Pritzker said.

Meanwhile, here’s Youngkin on 2024:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3551508-youngkin-on-running-in-2024-thats-not-a-decision-we-have-even-begun-to-undertake/

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Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) said on Sunday he was “hugely humbled” by people calling on him to run for president in 2024 but said he has not come close to making such a decision.

“That’s not a decision that we have even begun to undertake,” Youngkin told CBS “Face the Nation” guest moderator Robert Costa.


Pritzker and Youngkin could be good candidates
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« Reply #1443 on: July 17, 2022, 12:21:59 PM »

The Guardian has an "interesting" piece on Tucker Carlson. I had no idea he was flirting with the idea or in Iowa until I dropped by the Guardian website. From there you can click on an NYT article that does a  deep dive into Carlson's mining of white fear for ratings and profits. Nothing else boosted his ratings, and Fox's profits, with nearly as much efficacy, as the threat people of color pose to the American dream.

Oh yeah, of course he is saying he won't run. He will keep saying that and raking in the big bucks until he announces.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/16/tucker-carlson-family-leadership-summit-president
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« Reply #1444 on: July 17, 2022, 12:39:22 PM »

The Guardian has an "interesting" piece on Tucker Carlson. I had no idea he was flirting with the idea or in Iowa until I dropped by the Guardian website. From there you can click on an NYT article that does a  deep dive into Carlson's mining of white fear for ratings and profits. Nothing else boosted his ratings, and Fox's profits, with nearly as much efficacy, as the threat people of color pose to the American dream.

Oh yeah, of course he is saying he won't run. He will keep saying that and raking in the big bucks until he announces.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/16/tucker-carlson-family-leadership-summit-president
Read most of it. Carlson might do well if he runs
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« Reply #1445 on: July 17, 2022, 08:39:13 PM »

The Guardian has an "interesting" piece on Tucker Carlson. I had no idea he was flirting with the idea or in Iowa until I dropped by the Guardian website. From there you can click on an NYT article that does a  deep dive into Carlson's mining of white fear for ratings and profits. Nothing else boosted his ratings, and Fox's profits, with nearly as much efficacy, as the threat people of color pose to the American dream.

Oh yeah, of course he is saying he won't run. He will keep saying that and raking in the big bucks until he announces.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/16/tucker-carlson-family-leadership-summit-president

If Biden wins in ‘24, I could see him running against Harris in ‘28. It’ll be like a 2016 redux.

In fact, I don’t think the 2016 election ever really ended and will just be repeated in perpetuity by both parties
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« Reply #1446 on: July 17, 2022, 10:33:36 PM »

Trump is expected to announce before the midterms, possibly as early as September.

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Donald Trump is expected to announce a 2024 presidential run ahead of November’s midterm elections, and in spite of advice from his closest aides, two confidents claim.

Two advisers told The Washington Post he is now allegedly eyeing September to make an announcement at the earliest, the paper reported on Thursday.

One aide described the chances of an announcement as being at “70-30 he announces before the midterms”, while others reportedly said September could be the soonest date.

Btw, here is the relevant excerpt from the actual WaPo story in question:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/14/trump-2024-announcement-fall/

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For nearly a year, a kitchen cabinet of Donald Trump confidants have told the former president not to announce his 2024 comeback candidacy before the midterms, arguing that he could be a drag on 2022 candidates and would be blamed if Republicans underperformed.

But Trump has continued to regularly push for an early announcement in private meetings, as potential 2024 rivals become more aggressive amid signs of weakening support among his base. Now an increasing number of allies are urging him to follow his instincts as a way to shore up his standing in the party and drive turnout to help the GOP take over the House and Senate next year.

The former president is now eyeing a September announcement, according to two Trump advisers, who like some others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. One confidant put the odds at “70-30 he announces before the midterms.” And others said he may still decide to announce sooner than September.

Trump has begun talking with advisers about who should run a campaign, and his team has instructed others to have an online apparatus ready for a campaign should he announce soon, two people familiar with the matter said. He also has begun meeting with top donors to talk about the 2024 race, one of these people said, while on trips to various places across the country.
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« Reply #1447 on: July 18, 2022, 02:14:05 PM »

Funny that Tucker says a candidate should "talk about issues that actually matter" when his show is 90% "some teacher in some big city that no Fox viewer actually lives in said that white Americans in history did bad things"
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« Reply #1448 on: July 18, 2022, 05:59:27 PM »

J.B Pritzker was in Tampa giving a speech to Florida Democrats over the weekend. Take a look at the text of the speech. Pretty much every line is an attack against Ron DeSantis, a possible 2024 candidate.
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« Reply #1449 on: July 18, 2022, 08:52:43 PM »

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