Georgia 2020 Redistricting Discussion

[windjammer]

Why didn't they comply with court orders ? GA republicans have so much to lose to have a Map being drawn by the courts.

[MaxQue]

Why didn't they comply with court orders ? GA republicans have so much to lose to have a Map being drawn by the courts.

In the case of the Senate, it's because the state senators who would be redistricted out are the Senate leadership.

[Tintrlvr]

Why didn't they comply with court orders ? GA republicans have so much to lose to have a Map being drawn by the courts.

In the case of the Senate, it's because the state senators who would be redistricted out are the Senate leadership.

Plus the usual not wanting to be responsible for ending any other Republican's career.

[Oryxslayer]

Judge Jones had the scheduled hearing on whether to give the legislatures maps the okay. An order on the next steps is expected quickly.

[windjammer]

Judge Jones had the scheduled hearing on whether to give the legislatures maps the okay. An order on the next steps is expected quickly.

How bad could this redraw go? Do you think it could threaten their legislative majority?

[patzer]

A thought- might Drew Ferguson's retirement tempt the Georgia GOP to redraw the congressional map in a way that eliminates the 3rd district, rather than risking the court drawing out a district with an incumbent?

[Oryxslayer]

A thought- might Drew Ferguson's retirement tempt the Georgia GOP to redraw the congressional map in a way that eliminates the 3rd district, rather than risking the court drawing out a district with an incumbent?

Their time has passed, it's either their maps from the first week of December, or commissioner.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1740426812742939121

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/1740427502588399732?t=Ge5xOIkpo6sQ9Vd19klMog&am...

Jones IMO just kicked the can, which is what the GOP wanted. All the same districts from this case are also in the consolidated NAACP and Common Clause case, alongside their racial gerrymandering claims. Which is why I personally find the overall ruling rather shocking,  cause that case is just going to balloon with evidence and additional charges given the new maps, and was going to trial in November before this ruling paused action. Next year we're gonna be right back here costing the courts and state more money and time. When this is all known in advance,  courts rarely if ever want to set the stage for reiterating the case,  but that's whats going to happen.

[Minnesota Mike]

As expected.  I think some here mixed up adding more AA majority seats with adding more Democratic seats.

[Dan the Roman]

Weren't several judges on SCOTUS flirting with a test to see whether there was a way to draw additional minority seats without altering the partisan balance as an affirmative obligation for courts in VRA cases?

I think Kavanaugh was going to be uneasy with a federal judge basically trying to draw GA Democrats into a majority under the guise of the VRA and rejecting these maps would be Jones pushing his luck

[Devils30]

What is median seat in the GA assembly and state senate under the new map?

As I said before, the congressional map was terrible challenge for the Dems. You could see them breaking the GOP gerrymander later in the decade in 6 and 11 but not anymore.

[Atlas Force]

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1740461235408413009

[Tekken_Guy]

What is median seat in the GA assembly and state senate under the new map?

As I said before, the congressional map was terrible challenge for the Dems. You could see them breaking the GOP gerrymander later in the decade in 6 and 11 but not anymore.

I think there’s still a chance. Those district are only 4 points redder than the outgoing GA-06 and GA-11. Maybe they still break it, or maybe they never were going to in the first place.

[Del Tachi]

Good ruling. Good move by the GA-GOP.

[Oryxslayer]

Weren't several judges on SCOTUS flirting with a test to see whether there was a way to draw additional minority seats without altering the partisan balance as an affirmative obligation for courts in VRA cases?

I think Kavanaugh was going to be uneasy with a federal judge basically trying to draw GA Democrats into a majority under the guise of the VRA and rejecting these maps would be Jones pushing his luck

Nah. But there is a separate supreme court issue.

In between the order which stipulated no cut up of performing minority coalition seats, and the hearing in December on the new maps, we had action in the 5th in a separate case. They affirmed with long-standing precedent that if proven an alignment of interests on all electoral fronts beyond reasonable doubt, aka a fairly high RPV benchmark that really only gets met once an area is safely Dem, there needs to be an access district.  This is related to Galvestons County Commissioners. But the county protested, and the full 5th is agreeing to a rehearing, and given that this is the full 5th, it's reversal will likely go up to the Supreme court next year.

[Agafin]

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1740461235408413009

Lol that 's a stupid statement from McBath. The judge is an african american democrat appointed by Obama. So his decision is about as far from partisan or extremist as possible.

[Skill and Chance]

This is good.  There need to be cases like this where the Section 2 lawsuit doesn't obviously benefit Democrats if we want the current SCOTUS to hold the line on the VRA and ensuring reasonable black representation in the South.