Which Nobel Peace Prize winner was least deserving?
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Question: Which Nobel Peace Prize winner was least deserving?
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Henry Kissinger
 
#2
Aung San Suu Kyi
 
#3
Muhammad Yunus
 
#4
Yaser Arafat
 
#5
Barack Obama
 
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« on: November 17, 2019, 07:55:02 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 08:25:15 PM »

Kissinger and Arafat were most antithetical to peace.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 08:25:34 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 08:58:06 PM »

I voted for Yunus because he got it for basically loan sharking. At least Kissinger is understandable by the very narrow context of that time even if him having one is laughable.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 11:02:43 PM »

It has to be Aung San Suu Kyi. Come on people.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 12:37:46 AM »

Kissinger was the most obviously undeserving at the time, but Suu Kyi might have him beat in retrospect.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 12:42:06 AM »

Henry Kissinger
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2019, 12:45:50 AM »

Henry Kissinger- obviously undeserving, though I don't view him in an unfavourable light as leader. His wish to return the nobel prize after the ceasefire failed, though, is admirable and makes him less undeserving in my view.
Aung San Suu Kyi- pretty obvious why she's undeserving now. She was probably not undeserving at the time, though, and the committee couldn't actually know that she was going to turn out to be a genocide-supporting Islamophobe.
Muhammad Yunus- also not very deserving, but while the specific reason to grant him the prize was probably the second weakest amongst those, the context and his actions weren't as terrible.
Arafat- the Oslo Accords were a good and important step, but the fact that his actions both before and AFTER the agreement included heavy support for terrorism targeting innocent Israelis- men, women, and children- makes him extremely undeserving. His biggest contribution was to murder, not to peace. King Hussein of Jordan should've been given his peace prize- he stands in direct contrast. After a Jordanian soldier shot a young girl on the border, Hussein personally travelled to her family's home, knelt before the parents and apologized.
Barack Obama- there was no reason to give him the prize. Zero. However, the context and his actions weren't bad unlike the rest on the list, and he did strive for peace generally.

So I'd rank it like this:
1. Arafat
2. Suu Kyi
3. Kissinger
4. Obama
5. Yunus
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2019, 05:49:28 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2019, 07:35:46 AM »


....care to elaborate why?
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2019, 08:18:38 AM »

Obama, on the basis of the fact he literally did nothing prior to being awarded the prize. All the others can be criticised on the basis of their records and whether they actually created ‘peace’, but at least they all did something and attempted to make strides to some kind of cessation of hostilities prior to their receipt of the prize.

The Nobel Peace prize is a particularly ridiculous award anyway, as its track record amply demonstrates (and in part because, unlike the literature and scientific prizes, it doesn’t sit comfortably at one or the other pole of the objective-subjective scale). The Economics Prize is of similar value, given its strong track record of awards given to people who were later made to look very silly indeed (Modigliani, Miller, Lucas, Merton and company).
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2019, 09:04:16 AM »

Oh, did he receive it? Definitely him.

He was the leader of the terrorist Irgun, which killed more innocents people than the PLO could've ever hoped to.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2019, 11:12:49 AM »

To be honest, Obama.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2019, 11:31:18 AM »

I voted for Yunus because he got it for basically loan sharking. At least Kissinger is understandable by the very narrow context of that time even if him having one is laughable.
Also, he directly glorified the idea of micro loans, which to a large extent is economic nonsense.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2019, 12:02:53 PM »

It has to be Aung San Suu Kyi. Come on people.

To be fair, she deserved it at the time, and before she became what she is now, she was seen as an icon of freedom and democracy. Her prize should obviously be revoked though, if there is any mechanism for doing so.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2019, 02:13:02 PM »

Obama:
Bombed 7 countries
Killed more people with drones than George W Bush (not a joke!)
Regime change in Libya,Egypt & Honduras
Expanded the Afghanistan war
Armed Radical Islamic Rebels in syria to overthrow Assad

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