HB 21-04: Real Life Protections Criminal Code Reform Act (Final Vote)
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« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2019, 03:10:10 AM »

'not of public concern' is a big leap, the Atlasian people should know when officeholders have deplorable views (or if you insist, views that would reasonably be considered controversial and offensive to some voters)
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« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2019, 03:17:36 AM »

And even if "public concern" is reasonable standard, the exception doesn't even exist at the end of the day as it is eliminated by (r).
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« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2019, 10:47:18 AM »
« Edited: December 01, 2019, 11:02:36 AM by Justice Blair »

Object.

As the only person to have served recently as both Attorney General & a Judge in a criminal trial in Atlasia I know how important it is that criminal code is written clearly.

These amendments are vague, poorly written and would create a dangerous precedent. This is simply using the criminal justice system to make a political point & is the type of thing that players in 2-3 years will think 'why on earth was this allowed to pass?'
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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2019, 04:21:28 PM »

I object to the amendment.
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« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2019, 08:13:57 PM »

As there have been objections, Representatives have 72 hours to vote on whether to adopt the amendment.
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« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2019, 11:55:22 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2019, 02:18:15 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2019, 12:47:09 PM »

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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2019, 03:43:09 PM »

NAY
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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2019, 10:01:19 PM »

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« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2019, 06:32:24 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2019, 08:16:05 PM »

The amendment is rejected, 2-4-0-3.
Aye; 2 (ReaganClinton, fhtagn)
Nay; 4 (Blair, razze, JGibson, thumb21)
Abstaining; 0
Not voting; 3 (Elcaspar, LouisvilleThunder, YE)

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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2019, 09:47:17 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.
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« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2019, 10:18:57 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.
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« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2019, 10:41:10 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.
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« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2019, 10:54:13 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.
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« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2019, 11:10:03 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.
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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2019, 11:26:33 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.
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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2019, 11:36:04 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.
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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2019, 11:56:04 PM »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.
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« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2019, 12:20:42 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 07:53:39 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.

Lol only a maybe. Unlike you, I don't need Atlasia to be my safe space, but constant screeching insults in tons of threads is tiresome. Maybe one day you will once again be able to go a full few posts without rushing to a personal attack instead of an argument.
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« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2019, 01:28:10 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 07:53:52 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.

Lol only a maybe. Unlike you, I don't need Atlasia to be my safe space, but constant screeching insults in tons of threads is tiresome. Maybe one day you will once again be able to go a full few posts without rushing to a personal attack instead of an argument.

The lengths you are willing to go to try to silence opposition and those who simply aren't left wing prove you want this to be a safe space and that you think "wrongthink" isn't welcome here.
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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2019, 01:36:29 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 07:54:05 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.


Lol only a maybe. Unlike you, I don't need Atlasia to be my safe space, but constant screeching insults in tons of threads is tiresome. Maybe one day you will once again be able to go a full few posts without rushing to a personal attack instead of an argument.

The lengths you are willing to go to try to silence opposition and those who simply aren't left wing prove you want this to be a safe space and that you think "wrongthink" isn't welcome here.

I don't consider your posts 'wrongthink' because that implies actual thought goes into them. Also that post is not only delusional but narcissistic too.
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« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2019, 05:49:20 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 07:54:21 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.

Lol only a maybe. Unlike you, I don't need Atlasia to be my safe space, but constant screeching insults in tons of threads is tiresome. Maybe one day you will once again be able to go a full few posts without rushing to a personal attack instead of an argument.

The lengths you are willing to go to try to silence opposition and those who simply aren't left wing prove you want this to be a safe space and that you think "wrongthink" isn't welcome here.


I don't consider your posts 'wrongthink' because that implies actual thought goes into them. Also that post is not only delusional but narcissistic too.

You of all people have no room to call anyone narcissistic.
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« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2019, 05:55:49 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2019, 07:57:34 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


Funny, cause that's all the Labor majority has bothered doing since taking over, this vote included.

Given you voted to keep a inactive GM in office, your tiresome 'Labor is inactive' talking point is clearly hypocritical and even more detached from reality than usual. Additionally, the majority was right to reject this dumpster fire of an amendment, it is disappointing that anyone voted for it.

It's disappointing anyone voted for the dumpster fire of an administration we have and consistently lazy legislators on the left but here we are.

Lol. There is absolutely zero evidence to back up your ridiculous inactivity accusations. And our great victory in October also reflects badly on you as it showed how unappealing you really are to the vast majority of players. Indeed, the real disappointment there was that people voted for other tickets when ours was so clearly the best.

Considering Adam doesn't actually do anything and there are existing reps on the left who have a long record of doing nothing, keep drinking the kool aid.  Those of us who actually pay attention to this game know you've never once spoken the truth since you became actively involved in this game.


Wow that's a bold and ridiculously obvious lie right there. Maybe you're trying Russian-style 'firehosing' but Atlasia is smarter than the rl US so you'll fail.

Whatever helps you keep the delusions going, Peri.


You're so easy to read-this is the part where you realize you've lost the argument and I've gotten the best of you yet again. Perhaps you'll add some unpredictability by trying to fight that realization for a bit longer, but you won't do the really unpredictable thing and show some humility and start treating other people with respect.


Lol only a maybe. Unlike you, I don't need Atlasia to be my safe space, but constant screeching insults in tons of threads is tiresome. Maybe one day you will once again be able to go a full few posts without rushing to a personal attack instead of an argument.

The lengths you are willing to go to try to silence opposition and those who simply aren't left wing prove you want this to be a safe space and that you think "wrongthink" isn't welcome here.


I don't consider your posts 'wrongthink' because that implies actual thought goes into them. Also that post is not only delusional but narcissistic too.

You of all people have no room to call anyone narcissistic.

Lol, I am every negative quality now and can't criticize you in any way? I would say this is a joke, but it's not even funny.
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