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Tender Branson
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« on: November 13, 2019, 01:28:58 pm »

https://www.zogbyanalytics.com/news/908-the-zogby-poll-trump-s-approval-is-decent-in-the-peach-state-bernie-sanders-is-beating-trump-convincingly-in-georgia-trump-is-in-close-races-with-other-democratic-rivals
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2019, 02:02:46 pm »

Huh... that's two GA polls now.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 02:47:55 pm »

But I thought Bernie couldn’t compete in the sunbelt?
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 03:27:31 pm »

Zogby has been way optimistic on Bernie, whom isnt a frontrunner, Warren, Buttigieg and Biden are.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 04:51:45 pm »

Wow, we're being blessed with Georgia polls today, although they're far from the gold standard (Zogby's a C with a R+0.8 bias according to 538).

Anyway, Trump's approvals here (48/50) make a lot more sense than the uga poll (44/54).

I doubt Sanders is doing better here versus Trump compared to Biden, but the head-to-heads with Harris, Buttigieg, and Warren in this poll don't seem outlandish.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 04:58:22 pm »

It's Zogby, so this not the best quality pollster. However, there seems to be a lot of evidence that Georgia will be in the competitive range.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2019, 07:36:40 pm »

It's Zogby, so this not the best quality pollster. However, there seems to be a lot of evidence that Georgia will be in the competitive range.

This. I think GA is about as likely to flip from 2016 as MI.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2019, 07:42:53 pm »

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Sanders 48, Trump 43
Biden 46, Trump 44
Trump 44, Harris 42
Trump 44, Warren 42
Trump 45, Buttigieg 38
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2019, 09:14:09 pm »

Anyway, Trump's approvals here (48/50) make a lot more sense than the uga poll (44/54).

Nobody's favorite argument, but these are within the MOE of each other. Likely that both polls are accurate.

On another note, it looks like Buttigieg's issues with Black voters might run deeper than just the primary. A Democrat who has been running for President for almost a year, is a top fundraiser, has generated plenty of free media coverage, and is considered as likely as not to win multiple important states should not be starting below 40% in Georgia.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 10:04:57 pm »

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Sanders 48, Trump 43
Biden 46, Trump 44
Trump 44, Harris 42
Trump 44, Warren 42
Trump 45, Buttigieg 38


Interesting how Trump is getting basically the same numbers against all the candidates.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2019, 11:21:41 pm »

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Sanders 48, Trump 43
Biden 46, Trump 44
Trump 44, Harris 42
Trump 44, Warren 42
Trump 45, Buttigieg 38


Interesting how Trump is getting basically the same numbers against all the candidates.
Another interesting observation is that Harris actually polls higher against Trump here then she does in certain Midwest battleground states.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 11:23:01 pm »

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Sanders 48, Trump 43
Biden 46, Trump 44
Trump 44, Harris 42
Trump 44, Warren 42
Trump 45, Buttigieg 38


Interesting how Trump is getting basically the same numbers against all the candidates.
Another interesting observation is that Harris actually polls higher against Trump here then she does in certain Midwest battleground states.
Gee, it couldn't have anything to do with the racial makeup of each state, could it?
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 11:23:57 pm »

Anyway, Trump's approvals here (48/50) make a lot more sense than the uga poll (44/54).

Nobody's favorite argument, but these are within the MOE of each other. Likely that both polls are accurate.

On another note, it looks like Buttigieg's issues with Black voters might run deeper than just the primary. A Democrat who has been running for President for almost a year, is a top fundraiser, has generated plenty of free media coverage, and is considered as likely as not to win multiple important states should not be starting below 40% in Georgia.

Pete seems pretty much dead on arrival in the general at this point.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 11:26:32 pm »

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Sanders 48, Trump 43
Biden 46, Trump 44
Trump 44, Harris 42
Trump 44, Warren 42
Trump 45, Buttigieg 38


Interesting how Trump is getting basically the same numbers against all the candidates.
Another interesting observation is that Harris actually polls higher against Trump here then she does in certain Midwest battleground states.
Gee, it couldn't have anything to do with the racial makeup of each state, could it?
Well, it certainly would be interesting if Kamala won Georgia while losing the Midwest. Unfortunately, it's not respectful to speculate on the dead, which Kamala's campaign effectively is.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2019, 11:29:54 pm »

Anyway, Trump's approvals here (48/50) make a lot more sense than the uga poll (44/54).

Nobody's favorite argument, but these are within the MOE of each other. Likely that both polls are accurate.

On another note, it looks like Buttigieg's issues with Black voters might run deeper than just the primary. A Democrat who has been running for President for almost a year, is a top fundraiser, has generated plenty of free media coverage, and is considered as likely as not to win multiple important states should not be starting below 40% in Georgia.

Pete seems pretty much dead on arrival in the general at this point.
Despite all the hype about his recent surge in the primaries
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2019, 02:17:01 am »

Zogby, but never really understood why people thought GA was much less likely to flip than NC.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2019, 08:57:09 am »

So Trump's approval is 48% but he's struggling to get past 44%?
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2019, 09:12:31 am »

Bernie's #s are so inflated in every national poll. He would struggle to get 45% in the popular vote.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2019, 11:08:22 am »

Bernie's #s are so inflated in every national poll. He would struggle to get 45% in the popular vote.

yep, every national poll is inflated for bernie. he would lose in big landslide.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2019, 11:37:05 am »

Bernie's #s are so inflated in every national poll. He would struggle to get 45% in the popular vote.

Says the guy who doesn't get the populist appeal of "socialism" to the younger generation.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2019, 06:21:35 pm »

Zogby, but never really understood why people thought GA was much less likely to flip than NC.

People unironically think Iowa and Ohio are more likely to flip than Georgia.

inb4 someone says KY-Gov
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2019, 05:31:18 pm »

More awful numbers for Pete. He should really just drop out now, most of the country isn't Iowa and even if he wins there he'll just be embarrassed in New Hampshire and especially South Carolina.
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