Bevin throws a toddler tantrum and wants a do-over

[Bandit3 the Worker]

After losing the election, Matt Bevin is crying that there were "irregularities" and wants a recanvass. The odds of him prevailing at a recanvass are zero, so legislators are threatening to overturn the election results and declare Bevin the winner. It's hard to see how the Kentucky Supreme Court will allow that.

If that succeeds, why can't Democrats who were in the Kentucky legislature in 1988 retroactively award Kentucky's electoral votes to Dukakis?

[Alben Barkley]

The Republican State Senate leader said that because he believes the votes for the Libertarian probably would have gone to Bevin, that would make Bevin the "clear winner."

Well I guess that means we need to immediately install Al Gore as President, since the official margin in Florida was literally 10 times smaller than this one and there were sure as hell enough Nader votes to make that difference.

Seriously, if they actually get away with this it will be terrifying for democracy. I'm worried that they are testing the waters to see how far they can go when Trump loses and refuses to step down.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The Republican State Senate leader said that because he believes the votes for the Libertarian probably would have gone to Bevin, that would make Bevin the "clear winner."

The Libertarian probably drained more votes from Beshear anyhow, because the Republicans support big, intrusive government more than anyone.

[Alben Barkley]

The Republican State Senate leader said that because he believes the votes for the Libertarian probably would have gone to Bevin, that would make Bevin the "clear winner."

The Libertarian probably drained more votes from Beshear anyhow, because the Republicans support big, intrusive government more than anyone.

That or they just would have sat the election out. Clearly these votes were protest votes against Bevin. Counting them as votes FOR Bevin is just ridiculous. Not that I would put anything past the GOP when it comes to undermining democratic elections when they don’t get their way.

Also the state Libertarian Party’s official statement on the results was that they were glad to play spoiler and furious at Bevin for things like refusing to legalize gambling and pot — making the idea that a vote for them was interchangeable with a vote for Bevin even more ridiculous.

It’s also gonna look particularly dumb to claim mass Democratic voter fraud when there was clearly a massive number of split tickets that were straight R except for Bevin.

[Nyvin]

1.  If the legislature thinks the Libertarian votes should've gone to Bevin, then that's their own damn fault for not enacting Ranked Choice Voting.

2.  If this is going to be a "contested election" when Beshear won by over 5k votes,  why the heck wasn't Bevin's 2015 primary win a "contested election" when he won by 82?

[Cinemark]

There seems to be alot of republicans in Kentucky who dislike Bevin. One of them being Mitch McConnell. That makes me think there wont be an actual attempt to overturn the results.

[Xing]

Funny how Republicans always accuse Democrats of being sore losers. Anyway, unless Kentucky has some obscure law about run-offs, this is going nowhere.

[lfromnj]

There seems to be alot of republicans in Kentucky who dislike Bevin. One of them being Mitch McConnell. That makes me think there wont be an actual attempt to overturn the results.

Yeah didnt like 2 members of the state senate directly endorse Beshear?

[Progressive Pessimist]

This may very well be prescient of how 2020 will go if Trump loses. Birds of a feather...

[The Dowager Mod]

Basically any election a Democrat wins is de facto illegitimate according to Republicans.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hilary wanted a do over in MI, WI and Pa and didn't get one, when she won the popular vote

[GeorgiaModerate]

Here's some of what Bevin is claiming:

https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1192208804869488641

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I don't give him much chances of success, but he's well within his rights to obtain a recount. That's how we avoided turning the Queens DA office over to a JD acolyte.

[Yellowhammer]

Basically any election a Democrat wins is de facto illegitimate according to Republicans.

It cuts both ways.

[Beet]

Beshear had a clear victory. Sorry Republicans, but you win some you lose some. Same with Democrats. There are countries where political Party takes precedence over democratic processes. China. North Korea. Not traditionally the United States.

[Indy Texas]

This may very well be prescient of how 2020 will go if Trump loses. Birds of a feather...

"Clearly this 2% of the vote for the Justin Amash/Bill Weld Libertarian ticket should logically have gone to the candidate who believes the president can rule by fiat, ban vaping, increase military spending, expropriate land for border walls, and severely restrict freedom of movement."

[Mr. Illini]

It has become abundantly clear that Republicans have no interest in democracy when it works to their disadvantage

[DINGO Joe]

It's cool when this thread is on the front page and it looks like Bevin has thrown a toddler, which given Bevin's history seems plausible.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Here's some of what Bevin is claiming:

https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1192208804869488641

"It is known."

[Indy Texas]

It has become abundantly clear that Republicans have no interest in democracy when it works to their disadvantage

"If conservatives can't achieve their policy goals through democratic means, they won't give up on conservatism, they will give up on democracy." —David Frum

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Beshear had a clear victory. Sorry Republicans, but you win some you lose some. Same with Democrats. There are countries where political Party takes precedence over democratic processes. China. North Korea. Not traditionally the United States.

An under .5% victory in a statewide race isn't a clear victory. It's a razor-thin victory subject to change.

That being said, Bevin already going full conspiracy doesn't make me think he's got a good chance. If he actually thought he won on miscounted votes and absentees, he'd be playing this a lot smarter.

[darklordoftech]

It has become abundantly clear that Republicans have no interest in democracy when it works to their disadvantage

The only “freedom” they care about is the freedom to lack access to healthcare.

[KaiserDave]

Lol this is perfect. Bevin throwing a tantrum.

Seriously though, the modern GOP barely cares for our Republic.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

This doesn't have legs in the real world, right?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

This doesn't have legs in the real world, right?

Probably not, but the Kentucky media isn't exactly the real world.