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Question: Which of these Senators were DOA for the following elections?
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Blanche Lincoln (2010)
 
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Scott Brown (2012)
 
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Mark Pryor (2014)
 
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Mary Landrieu (2014)
 
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Mark Begich (2014)
 
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Mark Kirk (2016)
 
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Heidi Heitkamp (2018)
 
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Joe Donnelly (2018)
 
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Claire McCaskill (2018)
 
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« on: November 05, 2019, 06:10:49 PM »

Which of these Senate incumbents were DOA, who never had a chance at re-election?
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2019, 09:48:18 PM »

Begich is the only one I can see a case for not being completely DOA from the start.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2019, 10:01:22 PM »

Lincoln. Pyror, Landrieu , Kirk, Heitkamp, Donnelly.


Scott Brown could have won if 2012 went badly for Obama(and at this time in the 2012 cycle that was very possible), Begich wins if 2014 wasnt such as GOP wave , and McCaskill wins if not for the Kavanugh hearings .


All but Begich though were DOA by October of election year
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2019, 10:27:09 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 01:26:50 AM »

All but Begich and Air Claire.

Begich did quite a good job, but simply was on the wrong side of a wave.

But Claire totally could've pulled through against Hawley if she hadn't sold out the base so terribly.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 01:42:02 PM »

All of them except Begich
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2019, 06:09:01 PM »

I don't believe that DOA is a thing. For example, last year. Donnelly, Heitkamp, and McCaskill all could've won. They could have ran much better campaigns. Donnelly could have faced one of the two Republican congressman instead of Braun, and Heitkamp Campbell instead of Cramer. The environment could've been even better for Dems. Most importantly, the Kavanaugh debacle could've not happened.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 07:09:56 PM »

All except Begich. McCaskill and Donnelly could have won in an alternate universe against weaker Republicans, but pretty much had no realistic way to beat Hawley and Braun in hindsight
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 07:15:38 PM »

I don't believe that DOA is a thing. For example, last year. Donnelly, Heitkamp, and McCaskill all could've won. They could have ran much better campaigns. Donnelly could have faced one of the two Republican congressman instead of Braun, and Heitkamp Campbell instead of Cramer. The environment could've been even better for Dems. Most importantly, the Kavanaugh debacle could've not happened.
Within their control, though? Yeah, probably all except Begich.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 08:16:10 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 08:36:05 PM »

It depends if we take the challenger into account.

Scott Brown was not DOA. He had a serious chance as a moderate incumbent.

Blanche Lincoln was DOA with Boozman but could have beaten a weaker republican.

Pryor was DOA (went from unopposed to a crushing defeat in just 6 years)

Landrieu was DOA against Cassidy. Hard to say if against all republicans

Begich was not DOA. He could have won.

Kirk was DOA against Duckworth and most other democrats.

Heitkamp was DOA the second Cramer entered the race. Probably against most others as well.

Donnelly DOA against Bruan, but not any republican

Mccaskill was DOA against Hawley but might have had a chance against a weaker republican
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 10:28:55 PM »

All of them except Begich, Landrieu, and Heitkamp
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2019, 03:37:34 PM »

Only Kirk, a lot of the others' weaknesses were only apparent in retrospect. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 11:23:23 AM »

Lincoln, Landrieu, Kirk, Heitkamp
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2019, 03:33:43 AM »

I don't think that any of the 2018 Democrats were DOA. All three ran really, really bad campaigns against strong, well-funded opponents - and still won roughly 45% of the vote each. Yes, 2018 was a good year for Democrats at the national level, but the "wave" didn't reach everywhere.

Democrats could win any one of these seats again with a decent candidate, a strong campaign, and a favorable national environment.

The Obama-era southern Dems on the other hand... I'm not sure that anything short of setting themselves up for party switches years in advance would have prevented those losses. Only a Roy Moore level candidate could make these seats competitive again in the immediate future.

I absolutely agree with you.

Of the three (ND, IN and MO) I would think Missouri would be the most likely to elect a Democratic Senator. McCaskill also had the issue of being very unpopular.

Geography hurts Democrats in Missouri but it can also help. It could be pretty efficient to run a metro based campaign and be able to earn a statewide majority. (STL, KC, Columbia and Springfield).

I do not believe we cold win North Dakota any time for the foreseeable future. I feel like Heitkamp got unlucky with Kavanaugh and also screwed up her own campaign.
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