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« on: November 04, 2019, 09:44:28 AM »

I really wish they had polled GA and TX as well.

Anyway, this poll is not great for Democrats and shows that Trump is still very much in it. The results for the three Midwest battleground states, in particular, are much more believable than some of the other polls we've been seeing.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 10:30:05 AM »

To be a bit contrarian, I don't think an incumbent doing in the mid-40s against a few people who have not even unified their own party is all that great for him. The Dem numbers in this poll are basically irrelevant, all that matters is that Trump is within the same 1-2 points against all of them. Again, the candidates with the most name recognition among the Dems will benefit the most. The difference there is with the Hispanic and "Other" vote, who are the most marginalized and also the group undersampled by Siena in 2018.

That may explain some of their misses in House races too: In Texas, they had Gina Ortiz Jones down by 9 and she ended up losing by 0.5; they had Lizzie Fletcher down by 1 and 3, and she ended up winning by 5.

NYT/Siena's House polls were kind of a mixed bag - it seems like they fell into many of the same traps that other pollsters had wrt Hispanic constituencies and polling of those constituencies was pretty off-base. Overall, though, most of their polls were within the margin of error of the actual result, especially in the Midwest.

Also, going by that same logic, I think there is a case to be made that the Arizona numbers are the one piece of good news out of this whole slew of polls for the Democrats, and that Democratic strength in Arizona may be underestimated.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 05:54:47 PM »

I've been thinking about this specific poll a lot since the election, and it's significant how close the Biden LV numbers (aside from FL) ended up being to the final result. Granted, all those states being close isn't exactly surprising given how they voted in 2016, but it's still notable that a poll a year out from the election basically nailed the final result when many other pollsters showed much rosier numbers at the time (and subsequently in the cycle). This poll also proves just how overlooked GA was as a potential flip this cycle given it ended up voting a few points to the left of two of these states and a fraction of a tenth of a percent to the right of another.

Oh, and the Democrats really dodged a bullet by not nominating Warren.
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