North Carolina 2020 Redistricting

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/03/madison-cawthorn-republican-party-gerrymandering

LOL.

I literally can't.

This is meant to be a prestigious newspaper but the guy can't even do the most basic research.

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Would it have been that hard to keep the district numbers the same?

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So what is the TLDR for this point in time on the outcome?

The map used in 2020 was pretty damn fair, it's frustrating that it couldn't just have been kept in place, since that *should* satisfy the rationals on both sides.

There's 14 districts in the first place.

Ye a least change map was always going to be tricky since there was no obvious place to put the new district other than “in the triangle”, which means most parts of the state where redistricting is decisive would have to be shifted significantly anyways. Doesn’t excuse the GOP Gerry though.

Here's my try at what a least change map could have looked like. The current 8th gets split equally into a rump 8th and a new 14th, with each of the two taking on more areas in the triangle and the Charlotte area respectively. New 8th is Biden+6 in 2020, new 14th is Trump+18. Every other district avoids any major changes, only really get what they need to keep population equality and that's it.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/a292ac55-346b-419c-a21a-3a08569aefe6

That is a decent map but I feel like county splits can be cleaned up a bit.

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Sounds like the writing's on the wall for the current map:
https://twitter.com/TimBoyumTV/status/1483178264344547332?cxt=HHwWiMCyjb6xp5UpAA...

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Shocker. So does the map go back to the legislature?

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I never want to hear again how the gop has a systemic bias in its favor

NY can have a 22-4 map and get away with it

Oregon can get away with its bs

Illinois can get away with its bs

These rulings always go in one direction. Always.

To be clear, gerrymandering by both parties is bad.

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Where would a sixth Dem district even come from? I count one seat in Charlotte, one in Raleigh, one in Durham/Chapel Hill, one in Greensboro/Winston-Salem and one in the Northeast black belt (that's trending R).

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The NCGOP just completely overreached with the initial map. I feel like it wouldn't have been overturned had they kept Guilford intact and made Butterfield's district a few points more Dem.

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https://twitter.com/DallasWoodhouse/status/1493344287983120388

I maintain that the NCGOP would have saved themselves so much grief had they not gotten greedy and cracked Greensboro.

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God bless them for keeping the district numbers the same as the current ones. That was one of the most egregious features from the map that got tossed.

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Is it really too much to ask for this state to be normal in redistricting?

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Are both Charlotte seats safe Dem?

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Also is there a DRA link to this map?

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Just wondering, why is it that redistricting seems to be so exceptionally contentious and painful in North Carolina even compared to other swing states?

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It occurs to me that if there's a mid-decade redistricting after 2022 (which seems feasible), whichever Democrat wins the new 14th district will most likely end up in a primary with Alma Adams when the Republicans condense Charlotte back down to one seat. Unless Adams retires in such a scenario to avoid a primary (possible given she's getting on a bit).

This year I expect there'll probably be quite the scramble for the 14th... Jeff Jackson is probably the strongest candidate if he wants to run.

He appears to be interested: https://twitter.com/JeffJacksonNC/status/1496876048176541696?cxt=HHwWgMDTxbi1_MU...

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Can't wait until this abomination is redrawn next year.

Sorry you hate fair maps. Cry more.

A fair map of North Carolina would respect communities of interest.

This while not perfect, does a better job at that than any of the abominations the GOP drew over the last decade in NC.

No way. The original 2020s map was better.

Yes because pushing a Charlotte district AND a Greensboro district WELL out into rural areas made a ton of sense from a COI point of view.  This is a much more compact map than the initial map that was passed

1. Didn't say it made sense. Just said it was better.

2. Yeah. Compact and COI violating.

How was the initial map better from a COI standpoint?  Greensboro all the way out to where??   South Charlotte combined with what??

Had a only in Wake district, put Durham and Chapel Hill with Cary, didn't split Charlotte in two, pretty easily better.

Isn't the new NC-02 entirely within Wake?

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Are new draft maps still expected next week?

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https://twitter.com/MichaelWNCN/status/1713996335555252701
I bet we'll see them tomorrow.

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How long til Jeff Jackson and the rest of the drawn out people decide to run for statewide office

Jackson will almost certainly run for AG next year. Idk about the others.

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Btw, didn't NC Democrats screw themselves sometime in the 90s or 2000s by taking away the governor's power to veto maps?

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Btw, didn't NC Democrats screw themselves sometime in the 90s or 2000s by taking away the governor's power to veto maps?

Not only did they do that, it was arranged by Roy Cooper.

Woof. These maps are disgusting and I don't support gerrymandering regardless of which party does it, but it's very hard for me to feel bad here.

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What's the constitutional petition process like in NC?

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What's the constitutional petition process like in NC?

60% vote of approval in both leg. chambers in one session to get an amendment on the ballot (no gov veto).

Oof.