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Coastal Elitist
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« on: August 12, 2021, 01:30:06 PM »

Oh my god, that's hideous. How'd that 13th vote in 2020?
Based on my sloppy rendition I just whipped up in DRA, it would be about R+9 to R+11. Definitely not a safe seat by 2020 numbers.

That's safe for North Carolina.
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Coastal Elitist
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2022, 04:07:05 PM »

They should go all out on a gerrymander. It's a joke that the "fair map" the court made splits the black community of charlotte. Really shows that they don't care about the VRA unless it benefits them.
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Coastal Elitist
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2022, 12:21:31 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2022, 12:34:34 PM by Coastal Elitist »

They should go all out on a gerrymander. It's a joke that the "fair map" the court made splits the black community of charlotte. Really shows that they don't care about the VRA unless it benefits them.

Actually the court map's split of Charlotte is ok imo since Carrabus actually has a decent growing black population; no matter what it's pretty much impossible to consolidate all of Charlotte's black population into a single district.

My bigger problem with the court map is the split of Raliegh, especially the black population. Why not just put all of Raleigh in NC-02 and much whiter Cary into NC-13?

The split of Fayetteville, the Sandhills, and Winston-Salem are also bad.

And district 9 especially just doesn't make any coherent sense.

To me, it seems like what happened is the 3 judge panel just spent an hour playing around on DRA until they got something that was "clean" and achieved partisan balance. They clearly did not have a great understanding of the state's geography as to be expected. They should have gotten a special master, but they would've had to really fastrack that process.
The court knew exactly what it was doing. They had to get a 7-7 map. Any neutral draw wouldn't have done all those splits but their goal was to get a 7-7 map and make it so best-case R's could only get 8 seats.
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Coastal Elitist
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2023, 11:20:09 AM »

Surprised no one saw this but maps are expected the week of October 9. Public hearings end today https://www.wral.com/story/nc-redistricting-gets-underway-with-voter-feedback-less-transparency/21069636/
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Coastal Elitist
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2023, 06:09:12 PM »

I doubt they'll do it but it's not that hard to make a strong 12-2 map: https://davesredistricting.org/join/a2ff7f34-4ff6-4295-855d-9def57f9ce87
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2023, 04:30:58 PM »

It's not that hard to tweak the current house map and get more republican seats. You can pick up one in Buncombe, one in Cabarrus, one in Cumberland, one using Caswell and Pierson counties and potentially one in Wake even though it is weak. Also they could try drawing out the minority leader and shoring up weaker seats in Almance and Forsyth. You can make 78 Budd seats: https://davesredistricting.org/join/901c3d69-36ff-4dcf-8870-7ebc7f0dfe46
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Coastal Elitist
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E: 6.71, S: 2.26

« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2023, 01:23:41 PM »

It's not that hard to tweak the current house map and get more republican seats. You can pick up one in Buncombe, one in Cabarrus, one in Cumberland, one using Caswell and Pierson counties and potentially one in Wake even though it is weak. Also they could try drawing out the minority leader and shoring up weaker seats in Almance and Forsyth. You can make 78 Budd seats: https://davesredistricting.org/join/901c3d69-36ff-4dcf-8870-7ebc7f0dfe46

This isn't in compliance with cluster rule fyi. That may be something Republicans do, but in that case you can gerrymander even more efficiently than that.
How is it not?
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