North Carolina 2020 Redistricting

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Least change NC map attempt. The Tech Triad is the area that needs the most reconfiguration thanks to insane growth and also it's the most logical place to squeeze in the 14th seat (which would've narrowly gone to Biden). All the other seats are pretty self-explanatory

Your 14th is pretty strange: why split Cumberland to put Fayettville (not in the Triangle) into the 14th but not Johnston County (actually in the Triangle)?

I was debating it but the remaining half of Johnson County is less populated with Fayetteville which makes things a bit weird. I could try having the 7th take in all of Cumberland but it just works out weirdly population wise.



Here's a quick attempt; Cumberland pretty much has to be split unless the 14th takes in Pender County

Cumberland may have to be split but it's better to keep Johnston whole and take less of Cumberland than more.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Least change NC map attempt. The Tech Triad is the area that needs the most reconfiguration thanks to insane growth and also it's the most logical place to squeeze in the 14th seat (which would've narrowly gone to Biden). All the other seats are pretty self-explanatory

Your 14th is pretty strange: why split Cumberland to put Fayettville (not in the Triangle) into the 14th but not Johnston County (actually in the Triangle)?

I was debating it but the remaining half of Johnson County is less populated with Fayetteville which makes things a bit weird. I could try having the 7th take in all of Cumberland but it just works out weirdly population wise.



Here's a quick attempt; Cumberland pretty much has to be split unless the 14th takes in Pender County

Cumberland may have to be split but it's better to keep Johnston whole and take less of Cumberland than more.

Yeah I think this 2nd map is better the more I think about it, even if it looks uglier.

[Nyvin]

Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





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Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?

For Greensboro and Fayetteville - Because Blacks would still easily control the Democratic Primaries in those districts (literally all of them).

I didn't really change much about the Charlotte districts, I tried to just copy the proposed map, no need for any changes there.  (The Fayetteville districts are changed *slightly*)

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





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Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?

For Greensboro and Fayetteville - Because Blacks would still easily control the Democratic Primaries in those districts (literally all of them).

I didn't really change much about the Charlotte districts, I tried to just copy the proposed map, no need for any changes there.  (The Fayetteville districts are changed *slightly*)

Right, but it's also a gerrymander.

[Nyvin]

Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





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Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?

For Greensboro and Fayetteville - Because Blacks would still easily control the Democratic Primaries in those districts (literally all of them).

I didn't really change much about the Charlotte districts, I tried to just copy the proposed map, no need for any changes there.  (The Fayetteville districts are changed *slightly*)

Right, but it's also a gerrymander.

Why?  The Rockingham/Guilford district is a heck of a lot more compact that way,  the Fayetteville districts barely change (it's a difference of like 10-12 precincts) and still have the same overall shape.   There's no mandate that Black people are concentrated into districts beyond being able to elect candidates of their choice, which they can.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





https://davesredistricting.org/join/09fda123-ab7b-4a36-8a43-719f1bfea181

Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?

For Greensboro and Fayetteville - Because Blacks would still easily control the Democratic Primaries in those districts (literally all of them).

I didn't really change much about the Charlotte districts, I tried to just copy the proposed map, no need for any changes there.  (The Fayetteville districts are changed *slightly*)

Right, but it's also a gerrymander.

Why?  The Rockingham/Guilford district is a heck of a lot more compact that way,  the Fayetteville districts barely change (it's a difference of like 10-12 precincts) and still have the same overall shape.   There's no mandate that Black people are concentrated into districts beyond being able to elect candidates of their choice, which they can.

Because it violates communities of interest. Putting urban Fayettvile with rural Moore county reduces the ability of both to elect the candidate of their choice. Drawing urban Greensboro with Rockingham county rather than adjacent suburban or urban precincts (Rockingham/Greensboro) unites disjointed areas.

[Nyvin]

Because it violates communities of interest. Putting urban Fayettvile with rural Moore county reduces the ability of both to elect the candidate of their choice.

Moore/Fayetteville (Cumberland) is the county grouping on the proposed map.

[lfromnj]

Senate map with 25 Biden districts.  I don't know if some deviations are too high, I just made sure they're lower than 12k.  I kept most of the proposed map's county groupings the same.





https://davesredistricting.org/join/09fda123-ab7b-4a36-8a43-719f1bfea181

Why do you put black areas of Greensboro, Charlotte, and Fayetteville with white rural/suburban areas?

For Greensboro and Fayetteville - Because Blacks would still easily control the Democratic Primaries in those districts (literally all of them).

I didn't really change much about the Charlotte districts, I tried to just copy the proposed map, no need for any changes there.  (The Fayetteville districts are changed *slightly*)

Right, but it's also a gerrymander.

Why?  The Rockingham/Guilford district is a heck of a lot more compact that way,  the Fayetteville districts barely change (it's a difference of like 10-12 precincts) and still have the same overall shape.   There's no mandate that Black people are concentrated into districts beyond being able to elect candidates of their choice, which they can.

 A triad district is less compact than putting Guilford with Randolph and Forsyth with random rurals but its obvious why that shouldn't happen.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Dang the proposed State House map just passed with near unanimous support.

Seems like the CD map gonna be the real sticker here.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Proposed Chapel Hill district for tomorow.

Found their draft for the 18th.

What's the partisanship of that one?

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Because it violates communities of interest. Putting urban Fayettvile with rural Moore county reduces the ability of both to elect the candidate of their choice.

Moore/Fayetteville (Cumberland) is the county grouping on the proposed map.

I am aware. So rural Cumberland should go with rural Moore, and urban Cumberland should get its own district.

[OBD]

Proposed Chapel Hill district for tomorow.

Found their draft for the 18th.

What's the partisanship of that one?

About Trump+10 in 2020 if I recall correctly. (Un)fortunately it's also about 120k over population though.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/JoseManrique93/status/1494319545720389633

New map released by the senate

[Roll Roons]

Is it really too much to ask for this state to be normal in redistricting?

[Nyvin]

They're afraid of Cabarrus and Union trending to the Dems so they put the rest of Mecklenburg westward.

[Antonio the Sixth]

https://twitter.com/JoseManrique93/status/1494319545720389633

New map released by the senate

...what part of "don't crack Greensboro" is so hard to understand???

There's no way the Court accepts that.

[GALeftist]

Is it really too much to ask for this state to be normal in redistricting?

I'm pretty sure they're trolling at this point. Trends look atrocious for the GOP in 13 and 14 and pretty bad in 6 and even 8, so they wouldn't want this map beyond 2022. Probably just aiming for a court drawn map which they can easily redraw in 2022. I do wonder why they didn't do this for the state legislature; maybe they thought restricting the court legislative maps to 2 years might have been unconstitutional.

[Pink Panther]

https://twitter.com/JoseManrique93/status/1494319545720389633
New map released by the senate

Why is the state the way that it is?

[Skye]

https://twitter.com/JoseManrique93/status/1494319545720389633
New map released by the senate

Man you just HAD to bring that guy's ugly face here.

[Oryxslayer]

Anyway, it looks like those masters will have to do some work, at least congressionally.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/EvanPerc_/status/1494327662046691334

Another map was apparently filed this morning. I quite like this one, actually.

[Sol]

They're afraid of Cabarrus and Union trending to the Dems so they put the rest of Mecklenburg westward.

No, if that was the motive they would have cracked Mecklenburg differently. This is a matter of giving Tim Moore the district he was fantasizing about, and forcing Cawthorn back to the west.

[Ritz]

https://twitter.com/EvanPerc_/status/1494327662046691334

Another map was apparently filed this morning. I quite like this one, actually.

It's by the leading Dem on the redistricting committee, Ben Clark.

[ProgressiveModerate]

This very much feels akin to OHs first map.

Contain Ds to as few seats as possible but still lots of competitive seats.

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/EvanPerc_/status/1494327662046691334

Another map was apparently filed this morning. I quite like this one, actually.

Its ben clarks. Notice his split of Durham to really boost the suburban wake seat. He did that in his previous map.