North Carolina 2020 Redistricting

[Tekken_Guy]

Who do you guys think will run in NC-7?

People I would like to run would be:

Rep. Jon Hardister
Rep. Pat Hurley
Sen. Amy Galey
Rep. Erin Paré

Mark Walker.

[lfromnj]

Are there no lawsuits on the legislative maps?

I guess for the state senate district if a court struck down anything other than SD1 and SD02 , I think the NC GOP would certainly impeach the court because the rest of the map is forcibly reasonable.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Remember, only the congressional maps can get a mid decade redraw. If the court strikes down the legislative maps, they're stuck with whatever the court does.

[lfromnj]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article256309297.html

No blocking, they also muddled the case heavily by mixing the legislative maps and the congressional map

[Mr.Phips]

Remember, only the congressional maps can get a mid decade redraw. If the court strikes down the legislative maps, they're stuck with whatever the court does.

I believe mid decade redistricting is prohibited in NC unless it is court ordered.

[BoiseBoy]

Did anyone seriously think these maps had a chance of being overturned? They're bad maps, but the courts are not as smart or prudent as we would like to think.

[Tekken_Guy]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article256309297.html

No blocking, they also muddled the case heavily by mixing the legislative maps and the congressional map

I thought Newby was going to run out the clock.

[lfromnj]

Superior Court Judges Nathaniel Poovey and Dawn Layton joined in the decision.

This was merely just a preliminary injunction but interestingly the Cooper justice joined as well.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north-carolina/articles/2021-12-03/nc-judges-weigh-attempts-to-block-elections-under-new-maps

[Libertas Vel Mors]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article256309297.html

No blocking, they also muddled the case heavily by mixing the legislative maps and the congressional map

Let's go!

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/JBremerDevt/status/1467210490329944064

Seems that these maps are likely final for 2022 at least. Ugh

[Pericles]

Given how 2022 will go, is it a reasonable assumption that the gerrymander will be in place for several cycles, perhaps the full decade?

[GALeftist]

Given how 2022 will go, is it a reasonable assumption that the gerrymander will be in place for several cycles, perhaps the full decade?

That would be my tentative guess, but a lot can change in 8 years.

[Skill and Chance]

Given how 2022 will go, is it a reasonable assumption that the gerrymander will be in place for several cycles, perhaps the full decade?

That would be my tentative guess, but a lot can change in 8 years.

In the most recent polling, the R's are leading 5X/3X for the D-held state supreme court seats that are up next year.

[BoiseBoy]

https://twitter.com/JBremerDevt/status/1467210490329944064
Seems that these maps are likely final for 2022 at least. Ugh

There was no way these maps were being overturned. Optimism often blinds people from realism.

[Tekken_Guy]

Given how 2022 will go, is it a reasonable assumption that the gerrymander will be in place for several cycles, perhaps the full decade?

Unfortunately for Democrats no Republican held seat will be up again until 2028. All the Republicans on the court right now are the ones elected in 2020 and terms are eight years long.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145

Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted with like 15 minutes to spare. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

[BoiseBoy]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145
Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

If the NC maps really do get overturned, I'll be shocked, but pleased.

[Lognog]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145

Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted with like 15 minutes to spare. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

Massive FF move

[Sol]

Court of Appeals is Republican controlled too--though it might be an unrepresentative subsection which decided this, I haven't been following the legal maneuvers as closely as I should be.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145

Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted with like 15 minutes to spare. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

Absolute horsesh**t. Won't matter after 2022 either way.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145

Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted with like 15 minutes to spare. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

Absolute horsesh**t. Won't matter after 2022 either way.

Let's say the courts rule in favor of the Democrats, and then the NCSC flips in 2022; what would the Republicans do? Mid-decade redistricting that would get sued and hope for a ruling in their favor this time? Is such a thing possible in North Carolina?

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

https://twitter.com/MurphinNC/status/1467895850533851145

Looks like I spoke too soon! Filing halted with like 15 minutes to spare. Fair maps might be back on the menu!

Serves the GOP right after the farce in Wisconsin. Least change, please.

Absolute horsesh**t. Won't matter after 2022 either way.

Let's say the courts rule in favor of the Democrats, and then the NCSC flips in 2022; what would the Republicans do? Mid-decade redistricting that would get sued and hope for a ruling in their favor this time? Is such a thing possible in North Carolina?

According to skill and chance, the state legislative maps cannot be redrawn mid decade but the cds can

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

This is pointless. The SCONC will flip anyway and republicans will draw another gerrymander mid decade

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This is pointless. The SCONC will flip anyway and republicans will draw another gerrymander mid decade

There’s no downside for us; why not fight it in court and see what we can get?

[Skill and Chance]

This is pointless. The SCONC will flip anyway and republicans will draw another gerrymander mid decade

There’s no downside for us; why not fight it in court and see what we can get?

This.  It's also unconstitutional in NC to redraw the state legislative districts mid-decade, so if either of those maps get thrown out, the changes will stick.  Dems could plausibly flip a chamber over the course of the decade.