Bolivia elections - 2019-2020 - Arce Victory

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Great! Now there needs to be a purge. Hopefully MAS will realize that establishing lasting socialism on a large scale without doing anything "authoritarian" is impossible.

Yes, Evo went from 61% to 47% in the past two elections because he wasn’t authoritarian enough. If he’d been more repressive he could have gone even higher.

I mean, technically yes? See: Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, etc

Of course the "real" approval would crater, but the election results would show Evo winning 99.9% or whatever

It would also be awful for the Bolivian people

The best of all was Nasser: he managed to get 100.0% (rounded). Even among authoritarians I think it's quite a feat to get re-elected 7,000,000 for vs. 65 against.

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Great! Now there needs to be a purge. Hopefully MAS will realize that establishing lasting socialism on a large scale without doing anything "authoritarian" is impossible.

Yes, Evo went from 61% to 47% in the past two elections because he wasn’t authoritarian enough. If he’d been more repressive he could have gone even higher.

I mean, technically yes? See: Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, etc

Of course the "real" approval would crater, but the election results would show Evo winning 99.9% or whatever

It would also be awful for the Bolivian people

The best of all was Nasser: he managed to get 100.0% (rounded). Even among authoritarians I think it's quite a feat to get re-elected 7,000,000 for vs. 65 against.

I tend to prefer Saddam Hussein myself, who managed to get exactly 100% of the vote, with 100% turnout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Iraqi_presidential_referendum

There is also the Liberian election of 1927, where the winner won 243000-9000; thanks to getting an insane 1680% turnout

Wow, I didn't know about any of those two. I have just seen that the Liberian result has been called "the most rigged election ever", and rightly so.
I mean that's almost funny, the 1929 Italian election where the PNF took 98.4% of the votes feels just so free and fair in comparison.

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So . . .

How ya feelin' CIA?

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Acknowledgements to CraneHusband:

Lol

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Some overseas results are in and it shows an interesting pattern of where the rich (and white) expats go vs where the poor emigrants go.  For example, from what's counted so far, MAS is getting 83% in Argentina, 71% in Brazil and 50% in Spain, while CC is getting 73% in Germany and 41% in Italy (but with another 41% to Creemos in the latter).

There are Bolivians in Italy?

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Some overseas results are in and it shows an interesting pattern of where the rich (and white) expats go vs where the poor emigrants go.  For example, from what's counted so far, MAS is getting 83% in Argentina, 71% in Brazil and 50% in Spain, while CC is getting 73% in Germany and 41% in Italy (but with another 41% to Creemos in the latter).

There are Bolivians in Italy?

Only 5,859 (that have a right to vote), so they're easy to miss, I imagine.

Yeah I had never heard of any. Actually Liguria - where I live - is the region with the highest share of Latin American immigrants in Italy, but they are mostly Ecuadorian, Peruvian, or Dominican.

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Autonomist or separatist movements in areas wealthier than the country as a whole really just cannot ever be trusted. Tale as old as time.

Lol
You know what I am going to say.

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Autonomist or separatist movements in areas wealthier than the country as a whole really just cannot ever be trusted. Tale as old as time.

Lol
You know what I am going to say.

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Lega's the obvious example in Europe, yeah, but I also tend to think "woke" rich-region separatisms like Catalonia's are, to use the parlance of our times, kinda sus for this reason. To say nothing of the Calexit/Jesusland-map fantasists here in the US.

Well yeah, I agree.

By the way, we've already talked about this a lot, but I can't resist reposting my new favourite quote, which the cato-camachistas who are Saving Christianity From Those Idolatrous Indians™ surely love.

What applies to nations is true also for different regions within each country, since there too great inequalities often exist. At times, the inability to recognize equal human dignity leads the more developed regions in some countries to think that they can jettison the “dead weight” of poorer regions and so increase their level of consumption.

More seriously: the people in that article are a level of stereotypical posho-classist-asshole-ness which I don't think I had ever seen before.

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Luis Arce is president. Democracy is officially back in Bolivia.

Muh savages 1
Santa Cruz elites and other assorted ghouls 0



The following is a famous Italian song appropriate whenever the left-wing wins:
https://youtu.be/Ao0eLUeUQC0

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Some overseas results are in and it shows an interesting pattern of where the rich (and white) expats go vs where the poor emigrants go.  For example, from what's counted so far, MAS is getting 83% in Argentina, 71% in Brazil and 50% in Spain, while CC is getting 73% in Germany and 41% in Italy (but with another 41% to Creemos in the latter).

There are Bolivians in Italy?

Only 5,859 (that have a right to vote), so they're easy to miss, I imagine.

Yeah I had never heard of any. Actually Liguria - where I live - is the region with the highest share of Latin American immigrants in Italy, but they are mostly Ecuadorian, Peruvian, or Dominican.

Interesting update on this:

1. Apparently my girlfriend is vaguely acquainted with an adopted girl from Bolivia. From her countenance, she looks mestiza.

2. I've found out where all the Bolivians here are: Bergamo. Literally. Of all Bolivian citizens in all of Italy, a whopping 25% live just in the city of Bergamo, where they constitute the largest immigrant group and ~3% of the total city population. I guess it makes sense that they voted so much for Camacho then, since the province of Bergamo is ground zero for cattoleghismo.

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2. I've found out where all the Bolivians here are: Bergamo. Literally. Of all Bolivian citizens in all of Italy, a whopping 25% live just in the city of Bergamo, where they constitute the largest immigrant group and ~3% of the total city population. I guess it makes sense that they voted so much for Camacho then, since the province of Bergamo is ground zero for cattoleghismo.

Like, why? I went looking for reasons and I tried but didn't find anything. What I did find, however, were some irrelevant but still hilarious things:

1. Three countries have a consulate in Bergamo: Switzerland (okay, it's in Northern Italy), Bolivia (there are a lot of their people there) and... Malawi? Is it just that rent in downtown Milano is so expensive? Why do they even have a consulate outside the capital?

2. There's a Facebook page called Comunidad boliviana en Bergamo and, to surprise of literally no-one, they post thing like this (warning: fantastically unashamed racism)

https://i.ibb.co/YXCkPVS/Screenshot-from-2020-11-17-20-09-43.png

2a. "un alteñ@", yay woke white supremacy!

2b. "escalteño" is not even a pun, you're just sticking words together, idiots.

3. I think you have the correlation backward; they aren't voting for Camacho because they live among their ideological soulmates, but because they're (probably) mostly from Santa Cruz. That would partly explain why there are so many of them there, they could have chosen Bergamo because of an existing santacruceño community, but something must have led to creation of that community in the first place.

1. I have no idea about Malawi, lol.

2. oh my God I can't. That's both massively racist and a bad joke even aside from that.

3. I was actually joking on what is probably a coincidence.

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2021 departmental and local elections are coming up. MAS is seeking to retain and expand its governorships but is seeing division between Evo (back in Bolivia and party president) and more “renovation”-themed forces in the party, with the party bases claiming that Evo’s imposing his own candidates in the primaries. Luis Fernando Camacho is running for something but we’re not sure if it’s the mayor of Santa Cruz or the governor. Waldo Abarracín (university president and former ombudsman) is the opposition candidate for mayor of La Paz.

Oh. Either way, Camacho is a shoo-in, I imagine?

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Felipe Quispe was... surely an interesting character. Rest in peace.

Waldo Albarracín (CC candidate) has dropped out of the race for mayor of La Paz.

Ironic since you called him a shoo-in one month ago. But why did he drop out?