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Question: Who would you vote for?
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Fidesz
 
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Momentum
 
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DK
 
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Jobbik
 
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MSZP
 
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LMP
 
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Párbeszéd
 
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Mi Hazánk
 
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Other
 
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« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2022, 02:22:03 PM »

 Fidesz even winning in seats that pre election polls had as marginal, such as Tatabanya, the two Miskolc seats, one of the Szeged seats etc. Even ahead in two of the Budapest districts. Looks like a solid Fidesz victory in in the cards.

That's my impression as well unless there is a bias in the count, like early votes, are counted first and early votes leans Fidesz.  I have no idea if that is the case but if that is not the case it seems like a solid Fidesz victory.
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« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2022, 02:23:16 PM »

Wow, Fidesz even winning all of the Pest seats for now. Would not have predicted this. Outside of Budapest itself, Fidesz winning almost every district except for one of the Szeged seats and one other.
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« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2022, 02:25:53 PM »

Yep Fidesz killing it in the FPTP seats, have seen projection of 89-17 for them there and 133 overall, just above the 2/3rds.

So this isn't close at all so far, they also won 133 in both 2014 and 2018.
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« Reply #103 on: April 03, 2022, 02:26:19 PM »

Wow, Fidesz even winning all of the Pest seats for now. Would not have predicted this. Outside of Budapest itself, Fidesz winning almost every district except for one of the Szeged seats and one other.

Orbans Govt has done an amazing job economy-wise and also has some of the juiciest support/welfare for families.

Most people vote based on their pockets, not based on whether the curriculum includes education about trans people.  
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« Reply #104 on: April 03, 2022, 02:27:05 PM »

Wow, Fidesz even winning all of the Pest seats for now. Would not have predicted this. Outside of Budapest itself, Fidesz winning almost every district except for one of the Szeged seats and one other.

It seems this anti-Orbán grand alliance merely consolidated the right-wing vote behind Fidesz.  Reminds me of that old Nixon axiom: "if you hear about a stop-X movement, put your money on X."
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« Reply #105 on: April 03, 2022, 02:28:17 PM »

Peter Marki-Zay is down 10% in his own constituency with more than half of the votes counted. Clearly the wrong choice for leader.
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« Reply #106 on: April 03, 2022, 02:29:02 PM »

Yep Fidesz killing it in the FPTP seats, have seen projection of 89-17 for them there and 133 overall, just above the 2/3rds.

So this isn't close at all so far, they also won 133 in both 2014 and 2018.

If they end up at exactly 133 for the third time in a row, I refuse to believe these elections are legitimate. They must be rigging it and not even be subtle about it.
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« Reply #107 on: April 03, 2022, 02:31:57 PM »

Also, the Our Homeland Party might be winning enough for some of the pr seats.  How many former Jobbik voters are voting for this party in districts and party list voting that is weaking the anti-Orban consolidation attempts? I would think plenty of ex Jobbik voters would want this party over joining a mostly left leaning opposition.
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« Reply #108 on: April 03, 2022, 02:32:49 PM »

Yep Fidesz killing it in the FPTP seats, have seen projection of 89-17 for them there and 133 overall, just above the 2/3rds.

So this isn't close at all so far, they also won 133 in both 2014 and 2018.

If they end up at exactly 133 for the third time in a row, I refuse to believe these elections are legitimate. They must be rigging it and not even be subtle about it.

Or maybe the economy is booming under Fidesz?



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« Reply #109 on: April 03, 2022, 02:36:08 PM »

In the case of Budapest 14, which might be an upset Fidesz victory, Our Homeland is getting 5%, two tailed dog 4%, memo 1.5. Fidesz ahead by 2.5%. I think Our Homeland is effectively offering a way station for ex Jobbik voters.
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« Reply #110 on: April 03, 2022, 02:37:48 PM »

The LDP called, it thinks Fidesz is too strong.
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« Reply #111 on: April 03, 2022, 02:38:56 PM »

A preelection poll by district also suggested Marki Zay was an underdog. His district fits the profile of rural Hungary, which basically Fidesz is favored in every seat.
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« Reply #112 on: April 03, 2022, 02:40:19 PM »

List Update: 36.32% counted.

Fidesz + KDNP: 58.12% (46 mandates won)
United Opposition: 30.41% (39 mandates won)

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« Reply #113 on: April 03, 2022, 02:42:08 PM »

Szabolcs district 4, right on the border with Ukraine, Fidesz expected to crush it, is really crushing it, 71-22 %.  I believe the pro-neutrality Orban position really resonates with alot of voters.
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« Reply #114 on: April 03, 2022, 02:43:50 PM »

Time for the EU & NATO to throw Hungary out. Orban wants to go it alone he should do it without western money.
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« Reply #115 on: April 03, 2022, 02:46:02 PM »

If Fidesz misses the two thirds majority, if Our Country makes it in they'd probably be supportive of Fidesz on some things anyway.
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« Reply #116 on: April 03, 2022, 02:46:17 PM »

Yep Fidesz killing it in the FPTP seats, have seen projection of 89-17 for them there and 133 overall, just above the 2/3rds.

So this isn't close at all so far, they also won 133 in both 2014 and 2018.

If they end up at exactly 133 for the third time in a row, I refuse to believe these elections are legitimate. They must be rigging it and not even be subtle about it.

lol "elections are not legitimate when my candidate loses".
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« Reply #117 on: April 03, 2022, 02:47:02 PM »

Time for the EU & NATO to throw Hungary out. Orban wants to go it alone he should do it without western money.

Add Poland lol.
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« Reply #118 on: April 03, 2022, 02:47:16 PM »

If Fidesz misses the two thirds majority, if Our Country makes it in they'd probably be supportive of Fidesz on some things anyway.

The threshold to get PR seats is 5% right ?
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« Reply #119 on: April 03, 2022, 02:50:11 PM »

Yep Fidesz killing it in the FPTP seats, have seen projection of 89-17 for them there and 133 overall, just above the 2/3rds.

So this isn't close at all so far, they also won 133 in both 2014 and 2018.

If they end up at exactly 133 for the third time in a row, I refuse to believe these elections are legitimate. They must be rigging it and not even be subtle about it.

lol "elections are not legitimate when my candidate loses".

This is very very stupid.

No, it is because of transparently obviously unfair practices and vote rigging and manipulation. Be smarter.
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« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2022, 02:52:12 PM »

The united opposition so far is actually pretty lucky in Budapest.  They led Fidesz 45.7% to 42.8% but lead Fidesz in constituency seats 16-2.  You would think there will be a greater variation of the vote in Budapest.  It seems Fidesz missed out on some good gerrymandering.
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« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2022, 02:55:21 PM »

Lots of people failing basic reading comprehension on here. What else is new.
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« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2022, 02:58:56 PM »

Time for the EU & NATO to throw Hungary out. Orban wants to go it alone he should do it without western money.

Add Poland lol.

Actually the opposition is in pretty solid shape in Poland and the Western liberal segment of the country is roughly 50% of voters.  And Poland tends to play fair when the EU makes certain demands. Orban's Hungary, on the other hand, is a farce and an embarrassment to the entire EU.
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« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2022, 02:59:53 PM »

So looks like this is pretty much over at this point? Just as I predicted.
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« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2022, 03:00:36 PM »

People on here sounding like Hardcore Trumpers in 2020

WE ARE LOSING, STOP THE COUNT!!!!

STOLEN ELECTION!!!!
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