HR 20-17: Democracy Is Not For Sale Amendment (Passed)
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« on: October 09, 2019, 01:29:43 AM »
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AN AMENDMENT
to the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia

Be it enacted by both houses of Congress, assembled:
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Section 1 (Title)
i. The title of this Amendment shall be, the "Democracy Is Not For Sale Amendment."

Section 2 (Amendment)
i. Article IIIž6(i) of the Fourth Constitution is amended to read as follows:
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The Congress shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution, [. . .]
xvi. To regulate independent expenditures for political communication.

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This amendment would overturn the ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission by allowing Congress to regulate corporate spending in political campaigns.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 08:55:46 AM »

Why corporate but not union?

You do know Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, the ACLU, Lamda Legal, the NOW, the NAACP, Everytown, MADD, the SPLC, PETA ... these are all corporations. Your proposal would make it legal to limit these organizations to only spending $1.00 per election. If that is protecting democracy, you're insane.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2019, 08:07:40 PM »


Could this be resolved by removing the word corporate in the explanation, maybe by third party spending ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 08:41:26 PM »

The word "corporate" does not appear in the text of the amendment. Congress would have the power to regulate all independent expenditures, including by unions (as well as, obviously, left-leaning interest groups such as those referenced by the GM).
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2019, 01:04:09 AM »

Looking forward to voting for this!
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 10:50:48 PM »

I can't put it much more simple than the name of the bill: democracy is not for sale. This simple amendment gives Congress the necessary ability to regulate spending in elections. I will be proud to vote for this and I hope my colleagues do the same!
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2019, 06:45:54 PM »

Is the explanation part working like a regular bill, if we want to amend we have to propose an amendment and vote on it ?

The word corporate could lead to confusion, some might think it's for private companies but if I understand it's for all kind of organizations.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2019, 02:12:10 PM »

Is the explanation part working like a regular bill, if we want to amend we have to propose an amendment and vote on it ?

The word corporate could lead to confusion, some might think it's for private companies but if I understand it's for all kind of organizations.
The explanation would need an amendment, yeah, but it's not really that critical to the actual amendment itself.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »

proposing an amendment to clarify the explanation. Some might think corporate spending is only private business, so I am proposing third party spending instead.

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AN AMENDMENT
to the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia

Be it enacted by both houses of Congress, assembled:
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Section 1 (Title)
i. The title of this Amendment shall be, the "Democracy Is Not For Sale Amendment."

Section 2 (Amendment)
i. Article IIIž6(i) of the Fourth Constitution is amended to read as follows:
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The Congress shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution, [. . .]
xvi. To regulate independent expenditures for political communication.

Explanation:
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This amendment would overturn the ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission by allowing Congress to regulate corporate third party spending in political campaigns.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2019, 09:53:14 PM »

Fine by me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2019, 12:51:56 AM »

motion for a final vote
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2019, 09:42:58 PM »

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Your proposal would make it legal to limit these organizations to only spending $1.00 per election.

I wanted to know if this could legally happen. If the constitution has a right for third party spending  and Congress could regulate this but not eliminate it. I mean it could be restrictions but allowing a respectable spending limit (not a few dollars only).
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2019, 09:58:09 PM »

Objecting to the final vote motion as it seems debate still isn't finished.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2019, 11:47:06 AM »

72 hour vote for a vote opening.

Amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2019, 11:47:17 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2019, 11:48:57 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2019, 09:30:38 PM »

nay
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2019, 11:57:44 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2019, 11:59:55 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2019, 01:00:45 AM »

Passes 4-2.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2019, 01:28:05 AM »

A final vote is now open.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2019, 01:28:42 AM »

Aye!
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2019, 01:33:08 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2019, 06:09:09 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2019, 08:23:05 AM »

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