New York 2006

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May this be hereby proclaimed the official thread for the 2006 NY Gubernatorial election.

I found these poll #'s, from about 2 weeks ago:

Spitzer (D) 60%
Golisano (R) 22%

Spitzer (D) 63%
Weld (R) 16%

Spitzer (D) 62%
Daniels (R) 15%

Spitzer (D) 64%
Faso (R) 14%

And if Suozzi is an idiot and enters the primary:

Spitzer 69%
Suozzi 11%

I'd support Weld over Spitzer but don't particularly like any of the other 3.

[nini2287]

And some on here are saying Spitzer will lose...

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And some on here are saying Spitzer will lose...

Uh, who would that be? I don't think anyone here is that coked up.

Look:

NY shouldn't be written off just yet for 2006.

Of course, all sane/literate posters agree NY is done barring a Rudy entry.

[WalterMitty]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

[TheresNoMoney]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

[WalterMitty]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

[nini2287]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

I believe the spawn of satan is sitting in your Governor's mansion, WalterMitty.

[WalterMitty]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

I believe the spawn of satan is sitting in your Governor's mansion, WalterMitty.

good point!

but luckily he cant get most of his idiotic agenda passed due to the makeup of our state legislature.

[Defarge]

This could have been such an exciting race, a showdown between Spitzer and Pataki.  Instead, Pataki collapsed, and we have a Spitzer victory whose coat tails will probably sweep Democrats into every major state wide office, and may even win us the State Senate.

[Sam Spade]

New York = Texas (in reverse)

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question to fellow NYers (or really anyone):

If Spitzer had run in 2002, would he have beaten Pataki?

[YRABNNRM]

No. It may have been closer but Pataki still had the 9/11 effect.

[Defarge]

No one could have beaten Pataki in 2002.  Hell, even I would have voted for Pataki in '02.

[© tweed]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

I believe the spawn of satan is sitting in your Governor's mansion, WalterMitty.

good point!

but luckily he cant get most of his idiotic agenda passed due to the makeup of our state legislature.

It's kind of suprising that Mitt is a horrible person because his father, George Romney (I think that's his dad) was by all accounts that I can find a great man.

[Alcon]

Walter, pretty much all politicians are "media whores."

[Smash255]

question to fellow NYers (or really anyone):

If Spitzer had run in 2002, would he have beaten Pataki?

It would have been very close, Pataki would have probably edged him out though.  In response to budget woes in early 2003, their were some deep cuts in education propsed by Pataki, deep cuts in college tuition assistance programs & state tuition increases.  These were issues that tended to be on the backburner for a few months during election time, but McCall really didn't force Pataki to take an issue on them during the campaign.  The eventual actions Pataki took really had a poor impact on his popularity.  A more agressive camapign which Spitzer would have had may have forced Pataki's hands a bit on these issues and forced him to deal with them pre election day.  That is something that could have changed the race dpending on how everything played out.

[Gustaf]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

I believe the spawn of satan is sitting in your Governor's mansion, WalterMitty.

good point!

but luckily he cant get most of his idiotic agenda passed due to the makeup of our state legislature.

It's kind of suprising that Mitt is a horrible person because his father, George Romney (I think that's his dad) was by all accounts that I can find a great man.

Then he went and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like he's brainwashed...

If the NY state legislature falls into Democratic hands could they gerrymander more House seats for the Dems (like the GOP did in Texas)?

[Smash255]

spitzer needs to be beaten.

ive no doubt he is the spawn of satan.

Statements like this make me lose respect for you.

i am facetious most of the time.

no spitzer isnt the spawn of satan.  but he is a horrible media whore and a pompous windbag.

I believe the spawn of satan is sitting in your Governor's mansion, WalterMitty.

good point!

but luckily he cant get most of his idiotic agenda passed due to the makeup of our state legislature.

It's kind of suprising that Mitt is a horrible person because his father, George Romney (I think that's his dad) was by all accounts that I can find a great man.

Then he went and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like he's brainwashed...

If the NY state legislature falls into Democratic hands could they gerrymander more House seats for the Dems (like the GOP did in Texas)?

Not sure about the upstate districts, but one thing that could be done in NY-03 is to push a little further north in the portions it reaches into Southwest Suffolk county.  Heavily minority sections of North Amityville, northern portions of Copaigue & the northern half of Bay Shore were split last time.  The heavily minority sections of those areas went to Steve Israel's district Ny-02) which is ultra Safe Dem, and the mostly white, wealthy immediate south shore portions of those towns were moved into King's district (NY-03).  Also taken out of King's district in the last census & moved into Israel's district are portions of east central Nassau County (Syosset, jericho, Woodbury)  these tend to be wealthy areas, but have a large Jewish population & quite Democratic.  With that being said by the time of the next census districts ggo into effect in 2012, the district would have a decent chance of being in Dems hand anyway

NY-13 is a possibility.  One alternative could be to slice Staten Island into two seperate districts, and make each district have a larger slice of Brooklyn.  Another more possible scenario would be to change the sections of Brooklyn NY-13 holds, and make it a more Democratic & minority areas (Dyker Heighs, etc & some of the wealthier & whiter portions of Brooklyyn is what is currently included iN NY-13.

As far as Sue Kelly's district NY-19, I guess it could be jet setted further south to include some more minority heavy communities in southern Westchester, which would change the district

Can't speak that much for the upstate districts.

[Gustaf]

Inform me non-New Yorker a little more...how many Republican districts are there now (as in held by Republican Congressmen)?

I think Dems are gonna need to make some moves when it comes to the House since senate is going to be very tough to win back as long as the GOP is a small state party.

[Smash255]

9 house seats in NY currently held by Republicans in NY, 20 held by Democrats.

[YRABNNRM]

Fred Dicker of the New York Post said on "NY Week in Review" that Weld would be lucky to get 25%. What a joke.

He may be polling like that now but once the election gets going it will be in the 40's, same with Golisano.

[patrick1]

Fred Dicker of the New York Post said on "NY Week in Review" that Weld would be lucky to get 25%. What a joke.

He may be polling like that now but once the election gets going it will be in the 40's, same with Golisano.

Correct.  Bill Weld is no Howard Mills. 

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd still be shocked if he breaks 40%. Probably around 37% or so.

[patrick1]

I'd still be shocked if he breaks 40%. Probably around 37% or so.

So Bill Weld is less appealing to the New York electorate than George Bush?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd still be shocked if he breaks 40%. Probably around 37% or so.

So Bill Weld is less appealing to the New York electorate than George Bush?

Well Bush wasn't running against Spitzer, plus he had a bit of a 9/11 bounce that's all but gone now (I bet if the 2004 election was held in New York now the result would be along the lines of 2000)