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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2019, 05:00:13 PM »

Dave Leip will be required by law to turn over the post archives and IP addresses of Atlas users so that they may be inspected for evidence of wrongthink and the perpetrators hunted down and stoned.

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2019, 06:21:51 PM »

Here is how Democrats can win over people like OP...

The type of person Atlas thinks will deliver us Gov. Beshear, and thought would deliver us Sen. Bredesen, Gov. Edmondson, etc.

I'm sure OP would vote for Beshear because muh Bevin unpopular!

And before someone says he is not representative of the average Kentucky voter, you're right. He has not used any racial slurs yet and has the ability to form semi-coherent thoughts. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2019, 06:47:48 PM »

It's dumb to think The Left are the ones limiting free speech when authoritarian politicians (from both parties) are restricting peoples' right to assemble everywhere. Need examples? Here and here for some of the worst examples. Here's a full list.
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2019, 07:56:22 PM »

@OP: Virtually everything will be censored, if Millennial Leftists take over. This includes virtually every policy of Donald J. Trump, including just not being a Socialist like Bernie Sanders, because that's racist somehow.

It's dumb to think The Left are the ones limiting free speech when authoritarian politicians (from both parties) are restricting peoples' right to assemble everywhere. Need examples? Here and here for some of the worst examples. Here's a full list.
1. You should read the works of Martin Luther King Jr., particularly how he encouraged his protesters not to riot. He would actively prepare them and train them beforehand, in advance, to prevent protesters from turning to violence. This was highly successful and essentially told the people that they should not participate in his protests if they wanted to go commit crimes. If your "protest" is not ready to oppose violence, then perhaps you should go protest in favor of the violence you so admire--however, the police should arrest you, should your protest for violence escalate into a real riot, and you should be held liable for damages.
2. Prohibiting "protesters" from wearing masks to hide their identities while they go protest with Molotov cocktails, clubs, and other weapons (including possibly guns) is a basic, simple, and effective means to prevent criminal activity. There's a reason burglars dress like burglars, and it's not free speech.
3. Leftists censorship on social media is, without a doubt, the worst censorship currently extant in the United States to say the least. The second-worst would be the SJW cancel culture which is the sole permissible voice fostered under the censorship regimes of these websites.
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2019, 12:38:48 AM »

@OP: Virtually everything will be censored, if Millennial Leftists take over. This includes virtually every policy of Donald J. Trump,

Reversing the policies of a defeated political opponent constituting "censorship" is certainly a new one.
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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2019, 01:38:17 AM »

@OP: Virtually everything will be censored, if Millennial Leftists take over. This includes virtually every policy of Donald J. Trump, including just not being a Socialist like Bernie Sanders, because that's racist somehow.

It's dumb to think The Left are the ones limiting free speech when authoritarian politicians (from both parties) are restricting peoples' right to assemble everywhere. Need examples? Here and here for some of the worst examples. Here's a full list.
1. You should read the works of Martin Luther King Jr., particularly how he encouraged his protesters not to riot. He would actively prepare them and train them beforehand, in advance, to prevent protesters from turning to violence. This was highly successful and essentially told the people that they should not participate in his protests if they wanted to go commit crimes. If your "protest" is not ready to oppose violence, then perhaps you should go protest in favor of the violence you so admire--however, the police should arrest you, should your protest for violence escalate into a real riot, and you should be held liable for damages.
2. Prohibiting "protesters" from wearing masks to hide their identities while they go protest with Molotov cocktails, clubs, and other weapons (including possibly guns) is a basic, simple, and effective means to prevent criminal activity. There's a reason burglars dress like burglars, and it's not free speech.
3. Leftists censorship on social media is, without a doubt, the worst censorship currently extant in the United States to say the least. The second-worst would be the SJW cancel culture which is the sole permissible voice fostered under the censorship regimes of these websites.
First off, I'm a big opponent of cancel culture and rampant idpol. And I do worry a little that those things will become more and more mainstream, but the difference (now at least) is that it's Twitter dumbasses "cancelling" people, not government institutions.

Mask bans are bad, regardless of the intention of whoever is wearing it. If they want to conceal their identity, so be it. Not everyone who wears a mask to a protest commits a crime. It's hard to tell whether a riot will happen until it does: threats don't always play out, and some things just happen spontaneously.

I think in the end we just have drastically different views on free speech and the government's role in it.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2019, 02:05:49 PM »

Really baffles me that people think sjws invented the idea of moral censure. If you really want to see some cultural vandalism how about the effects of the Red Scare on Hollywood? Or the Hays Code? Or full scale elimination of immigrant cultures (e.g. the surpression of German during WW1) in favour of a homogenous "American" identity?
indeed, and the socially left has historically been on the correct side of this issue.  Which is why it is so concerning when some of them abandon the cause and others make excuses for them.
Except they haven't? Any "examples" of this I hear about are things like college students just protesting some douchebag speaking on campus.
since you ignored my first reply to you, here is another one, this time with comedy!
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1.guy does silly thing on tv
2.goes viral, gets a lot of money for silly thing
3.decides to donate
4.goes viral more, gets more money for charity
5.local newspaper does story, finds out he said 2 bad things on twitter when he was 16
6.the internet isn't happy, finds out the author of the story said a whole mess of bad things on twitter
7.newspaper releases statement saying we thought a lot about this, but decided to anyway, we're looking into our own racist, but hopefully this story will blow over before we decide, we like the little guy
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2019, 02:10:09 PM »

Really baffles me that people think sjws invented the idea of moral censure. If you really want to see some cultural vandalism how about the effects of the Red Scare on Hollywood? Or the Hays Code? Or full scale elimination of immigrant cultures (e.g. the surpression of German during WW1) in favour of a homogenous "American" identity?
indeed, and the socially left has historically been on the correct side of this issue.  Which is why it is so concerning when some of them abandon the cause and others make excuses for them.
Except they haven't? Any "examples" of this I hear about are things like college students just protesting some douchebag speaking on campus.
since you ignored my first reply to you, here is another one, this time with comedy!
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1.guy does silly thing on tv
2.goes viral, gets a lot of money for silly thing
3.decides to donate
4.goes viral more, gets more money for charity
5.local newspaper does story, finds out he said 2 bad things on twitter when he was 16
6.the internet isn't happy, finds out the author of the story said a whole mess of bad things on twitter
7.newspaper releases statement saying we thought a lot about this, but decided to anyway, we're looking into our own racist, but hopefully this story will blow over before we decide, we like the little guy

Sounds like the local newspaper is the culprit here, not "millennial leftists".

(I was busy with your last reply, but one link kind of boiled down to, "I'm a college professor and almost ten years ago one of my students once filed a complaint about something I said in class.")
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2019, 02:24:08 PM »

ITT I learned that - despite the numerous concrete attempts; in Italy, Hungary, Poland, the UK, Brazil, the USA and beyond; of populist far right politicians to actually overturn and undermine democracy - the actual threat is a few over-earnest teens doing what over-earnest teens have always done. That is, staking out their own identity by engaging in contrarian and not-always-thought-through emotional politics
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2019, 04:57:25 PM »

SJWs are the biggest threat to modern life. I would not help an SJW if they were on fire. They are not anything to me.
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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2019, 10:10:17 PM »

SJWs are the biggest threat to modern life. I would not help an SJW if they were on fire. They are not anything to me.
If you think a handful of college students are the greatest threat to modern life, you lead an incredibly comfortable existence. Congratulations, I guess?
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2019, 10:12:51 PM »

SJWs are the biggest threat to modern life. I would not help an SJW if they were on fire. They are not anything to me.
wow you are so brave
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2019, 10:48:50 PM »

SJWs are the biggest threat to modern life. I would not help an SJW if they were on fire. They are not anything to me.

r u ok man?

like i said SJW all live in the basement and are too fat to fit out the door, probably. u dont need to worry about them they r losers.

worry about more important things like getting ur ca$$$h money up brah.
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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2019, 10:50:32 PM »

SJWs are the biggest threat to modern life. I would not help an SJW if they were on fire. They are not anything to me.

And just to be clear, you're actually bragging about this? You're not saying this with the shame deserving someone falling off the wagon at an AA meeting? You paragraph totally pathetic. The bedpost thread is rightfully named after you.

But still, in the spirit of openness and forgiveness, let me make it perfectly clear. If you were on fire, I would gladly piss on you to put it out. I'm just that nice of a guy.
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