Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)

[bilaps]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, I know it was dumb to wait and I know that in a close 4way race every vote in IA would be crucial. And IA this year is going to be of huge importance for the rest of the nomination race. So, when Buttigieg holds almost 15 events in IA this week it is huge advantage.

I don't beleive too much in coincidences, especially in politics.

[GeneralMacArthur]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-bernie-sanders-cnn-kass-20200116-avuaiaxbfvdkbb2w6y4yoiafuq-story.html

But even a conservative like me can see that Sanders was cheated out of the Democratic presidential nomination the last time, with the Democratic National Committee rigging the whole thing for Hillary Clinton. And now it’s happening again.

are we really this stupid

It's not stupid!

Look at the Timing of the Impeachment Inquiry:

- September 24th 2019: House Speaker Pelosi announced that the House of Representatives is opening up an Impeachment Inquiry to President Donald John Trump.
- December 13th 2019: The House Judiciary sent Two Articles of Impeachment to the House for a Floor Vote
- December 18th 2019: The House of Representatives impeaches President Donald John Trump
- January 15th 2020: The House passes a Resolution naming "Impeachment Managers"
- January 16th 2020: The Impeachment Trail of President Donald John Trump begins.

Now, tell me if all of this is just coincidence because I don't think so. Speaker Pelosi knew excatly what she was doing here and more importantly when she would do it.

I'm sorry am I supposed to be seeing something interesting here?

Whistleblower report is in early September, impeachment inquiry opens a few weeks later, it takes a normal amount of time, they vote before the holiday recess, and after the holiday recess Nancy sends the articles over.

[2016]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, I know it was dumb to wait and I know that in a close 4way race every vote in IA would be crucial. And IA this year is going to be of huge importance for the rest of the nomination race. So, when Buttigieg holds almost 15 events in IA this week it is huge advantage.

I don't beleive too much in coincidences, especially in politics.

Don't you think the timing is a little bit suspect here? As you rightfully said: Every Vote in Iowa is crucial this time around.

Buttigieg & Biden, the two "B's" as I call them can park themselves in IA for the next two weeks while the other 2 Main Contenders (Sanders & Warren) sit in Washington and watch and they can't do a thing about it.

[bilaps]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, I know it was dumb to wait and I know that in a close 4way race every vote in IA would be crucial. And IA this year is going to be of huge importance for the rest of the nomination race. So, when Buttigieg holds almost 15 events in IA this week it is huge advantage.

I don't beleive too much in coincidences, especially in politics.

Don't you think the timing is a little bit suspect here? As you rightfully said: Every Vote in Iowa is crucial this time around.

Buttigieg & Biden, the two "B's" as I call them can park themselves in IA for the next two weeks while the other 2 Main Contenders (Sanders & Warren) sit in Washington and watch and they can't do a thing about it.

Buttigieg is doing just that. He is essentialy in IA since the last weekend and he will be through wednesday at least holding bunch of events in small towns. And we know how retail politics is important in IA. Bernie is this weekend in NH and he has a rally in Des Moines on monday and after that he's in senate.

[It’s so Joever]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-bernie-sanders-cnn-kass-20200116-avuaiaxbfvdkbb2w6y4yoiafuq-story.html

But even a conservative like me can see that Sanders was cheated out of the Democratic presidential nomination the last time, with the Democratic National Committee rigging the whole thing for Hillary Clinton. And now it’s happening again.

are we really this stupid

It's not stupid!

Look at the Timing of the Impeachment Inquiry:

- September 24th 2019: House Speaker Pelosi announced that the House of Representatives is opening up an Impeachment Inquiry to President Donald John Trump.
- December 13th 2019: The House Judiciary sent Two Articles of Impeachment to the House for a Floor Vote
- December 18th 2019: The House of Representatives impeaches President Donald John Trump
- January 15th 2020: The House passes a Resolution naming "Impeachment Managers"
- January 16th 2020: The Impeachment Trail of President Donald John Trump begins.

Now, tell me if all of this is just coincidence because I don't think so. Speaker Pelosi knew excatly what she was doing here and more importantly when she would do it.

I have a tinfoil hat and a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, my friend. Now 50% off!

[2016]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, I know it was dumb to wait and I know that in a close 4way race every vote in IA would be crucial. And IA this year is going to be of huge importance for the rest of the nomination race. So, when Buttigieg holds almost 15 events in IA this week it is huge advantage.

I don't beleive too much in coincidences, especially in politics.

Don't you think the timing is a little bit suspect here? As you rightfully said: Every Vote in Iowa is crucial this time around.

Buttigieg & Biden, the two "B's" as I call them can park themselves in IA for the next two weeks while the other 2 Main Contenders (Sanders & Warren) sit in Washington and watch and they can't do a thing about it.

Buttigieg is doing just that. He is essentialy in IA since the last weekend and he will be through wednesday at least holding bunch of events in small towns. And we know how retail politics is important in IA. Bernie is this weekend in NH and he has a rally in Des Moines on monday and after that he's in senate.

While Retail Politics is a big part in Iowa and New Hampshire a good, effective Ground Game can be worth 3-5 Points in a State which has a Caucus. At the moment I would give Pete an edge there followed by Bernie. Biden's & Warren's Ground Game look very suspicious to me.

Why I am saying this all? Trust me, I know all too well about it. For Starters Ted Cruz had almost 4000+ Volunteers in IA alone during Caucus Night in 2016.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, I know it was dumb to wait and I know that in a close 4way race every vote in IA would be crucial. And IA this year is going to be of huge importance for the rest of the nomination race. So, when Buttigieg holds almost 15 events in IA this week it is huge advantage.

I don't beleive too much in coincidences, especially in politics.

Don't you think the timing is a little bit suspect here? As you rightfully said: Every Vote in Iowa is crucial this time around.

Buttigieg & Biden, the two "B's" as I call them can park themselves in IA for the next two weeks while the other 2 Main Contenders (Sanders & Warren) sit in Washington and watch and they can't do a thing about it.

Buttigieg is doing just that. He is essentialy in IA since the last weekend and he will be through wednesday at least holding bunch of events in small towns. And we know how retail politics is important in IA. Bernie is this weekend in NH and he has a rally in Des Moines on monday and after that he's in senate.

While Retail Politics is a big part in Iowa and New Hampshire a good, effective Ground Game can be worth 3-5 Points in a State which has a Caucus. At the moment I would give Pete an edge there followed by Bernie. Biden's & Warren's Ground Game look very suspicious to me.

Why I am saying this all? Trust me, I know all too well about it. For Starters Ted Cruz had almost 4000+ Volunteers in IA alone during Caucus Night in 2016.

Interesting about Warren. I remember her ground game was rated really well in Nevada a few month back. Not sure if that still stands or not.

And yeah, ground games are super important there. That’s why I had Cruz pegged to win in 2016.

[James Monroe]

Vermont's former governor went after Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Thursday, saying that the longtime senator was willing to "play dirty" during campaigns.

Former Gov. Peter Shumlin (D), who was Vermont's governor from 2011 to 2017, told Politico that Sanders, an independent and a self-described Democratic socialist, lacks loyalty to the Democratic party.

“What I’ve seen in Bernie’s politics is he and his team feel they’re holier than the rest. In the end, they will play dirty because they think that they pass a purity test that Republicans and most Democrats don’t pass,” Shumlin told the publication.

“What you’re seeing now is, in the end, even if he considers you a friend, like [Sen.] Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Bernie will come first. That’s the pattern we’ve seen over the years in Vermont, and that’s what we are seeing now nationally," he added.

Shumlin is referring to the weeklong spat between the two progressive candidates. Early in the week, multiple sources reported that in 2018 Sanders had told Warren in a private meeting that he didn't believe that a woman could win the White House in 2020.

Sanders categorically denied the reports, and in response Warren released an official statement standing by her claim.

The tension was obvious during Tuesday's Democratic primary debate in Iowa. After the conclusion of the debate, a hot mic picked up the two in a short scrape that ended with both senators parting ways angrily.

Shumlin, who has endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden, also said that Sanders was trying to "Hillarize," Warren, referring to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

“We should be weakening Donald Trump, not each other,” Shumlin said. “I’m concerned that we’re seeing a replay of the kind of dynamics that didn’t allow Hillary to win.”

In 2016, Clinton beat Sanders out for the Democratic presidential nomination. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478715-former-vermont-governor-sanders-will-play-dirty

[Adam Griffin]

This whole article raises troubling questions and is worth a read, though I will just post some excerpts:

CNN Reveals Bernie Sanders Running For President Of Country With History Of Sexism

WASHINGTON—Calling their bombshell report incredibly damning, CNN revealed Thursday that Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders has been knowingly running a campaign to become president of a country with a long history of sexism.

...

“This new evidence proves beyond a doubt that Bernie Sanders strongly wants to lead a nation that has repeatedly enabled, supported, and encouraged misogyny,” said Anderson Cooper in a breaking news segment, claiming to have several documents directly linking Sanders to a country that did not even allow women to vote until the 20th century.

...

“Right here is a transcript of the text this woman-hating country was founded upon, a country which he willfully lives in and has publicly sworn an oath to, mind you. On just the first page it explicitly declares that all men are created equal, with absolutely no mention of women. And down here—look closely at these signatures that ratified this document as the supreme law of the land. You guessed it, all men.”

...

At press time, CNN confirmed that Sanders had not yet denied his close ties to this country nor its tens of millions of residents with deeply ingrained biases against women.

When will Bernie step up and forcefully condemn sexism and renounce his close ties to sexism?

The Onion is just absolutely on-point with these lately:

MSNBC Poll Finds Support For Bernie Sanders Has Plummeted 2 Points Up



Bernie Sanders Holds Secret Campaign Meeting With 15,000 Working-Class Democratic Donors

At press time, Sanders had received further criticism after documents were uncovered showing he has acted on behalf of a contingent of approximately 625,000 Vermont residents over a period of nearly 30 years.

Sanders Campaign Doubles Down With New Ad Warning Americans They’ll Never Be Able To Hear A Female President Over The Sound Of Her Vacuum

The Warren campaign reportedly responded with a fundraising email stating that the candidate was disappointed that Sanders had called her every single day since 2016 to say that women should never be allowed in public without a male escort but that she didn’t want to discuss the matter further and risk being divisive.

CNN Moderator Challenges Sanders’ Support For Women By Asking Him To Name Every Part Of Female Reproductive System

At press time, Sanders attempted to transition to discussing policy before being cut off and forced to draw the vulva.

[Xing]

There's a megathread for this already.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Of all the outlets to get hijacked by Bernie people, the Onion is one of the strangest.

[Ebsy]

Of all the outlets to get hijacked by Bernie people, the Onion is one of the strangest.

IIRC the Onion is run by a bunch of snarky leftists in Madison, Wisconsin/Chicago. Seems like a natural Bernie demo.

[DrScholl]

All of this has been known about Sanders for years, but it was never really discussed before. He is self-centered and autocratic. All that matters is his interest and he believes that his way is the only right way and if you don't agree with him you are wrong.

[Mr. Morden]

Of all the outlets to get hijacked by Bernie people, the Onion is one of the strangest.

IIRC the Onion is run by a bunch of snarky leftists in Madison, Wisconsin/Chicago. Seems like a natural Bernie demo.

I think it actually moved to NYC quite a few years ago now (maybe something like ~10 years ago?).  It was around the time it started publishing daily, and at the same time it became less absurdist and started trying to add in more Jon Stewart-esque political edge.  See, e.g.: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/09/the-onion-not-funny-a-slatepitches-special-report.html

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

I'm not taking advice from the man who almost lost to a random dude.

[Troll and Sock Puppet. Delete my ACCOUNT!]

This man is the reason that Vermont has a Republican governor.

This man is also the reason that Vermont does not have a single-payer health care system. Shumlin killed the bill before it could go into effect. He opposes Sanders platform and will himself play dirty to take out his opponents: in this case, Bernie Sanders.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I don't hate Bernie Sanders, and I will support him if he is nominated, but Shumlin is kind of right here. I have never been able to stomach the personality-driven politics that is often considered "populist" of the past few years. Trump is an example of that and Sanders has always come across that way as well. I don't think it's healthy, and I do wonder what it would mean for the party under his potential leadership of it.

[SnowLabrador]

Good. He has to do whatever it takes to win.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Good. That's why we need him, and why, despite being 79 with heart trouble, he's the best candidate to defeat Trump and save the country.

[James Monroe]

Good. He has to do whatever it takes to win.

You don't see Senator Warren play this dangerous game with the voters. The senator from Vermont vows to go against his enemies in the name of revolution. That's not a reasonable rhetoric to go against the other candidates, that is Trumpism in far-left wolf clothing. Bernie has been dipping in the polls since his sexist attitude towards Warren and it's not going to win him any of his critics as it demonstrate this is the true side of his vicious personality. He's a traitor as far as I'm bothered.

[James Monroe]

Thread on Bernie's ignorance plead to white working class Trump voters.

https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/1218255958415011840

[bilaps]

Thread on Bernie's ignorance plead to white working class Trump voters.

https://twitter.com/timjacobwise/status/1218255958415011840

Well if you concede to the theory that all of these people are racists Dems will never win an election ever again. So prepare yourself to the 60 more years of Nazi Germany.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Good. He has to do whatever it takes to win.

You don't see Senator Warren play this dangerous game with the voters. The senator from Vermont vows to go against his enemies in the name of revolution. That's not a reasonable rhetoric to go against the other candidates, that is Trumpism in far-left wolf clothing. Bernie has been dipping in the polls since his sexist attitude towards Warren and it's not going to win him any of his critics as it demonstrate this is the true side of his vicious personality. He's a traitor as far as I'm bothered.

He isn't sexist though. He literally said decades ago that a woman could be President. It is all over Youtube. Warren was losing momentum and needed to gain ground by lying, she's the traitor to her friend. Then he tries to defend himself and people call him liar. As for vows to go against his enemies, he endorsed Clinton and campaigned for her in 2016 General election even after what the DNC did. He also said on the debate stage that he would do the same again in 2020 for whoever the nominee ends up being.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

As someone who really likes both candidates, and is sad to see them going after each other rather than Biden or Trump, I don’t really understand this. Warren went after Bernie, not vice versa, how is that an indication of him playing dirty?

Also I get sick of people blaming Bernie for Hillary’s loss, he campaigned enthusiastically for her after he lost the nomination — if she couldn’t energize his voters, that’s on her.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Now I absolutely loathe Liz Warren and consider her a rank phony and poser.  I don't have a good word to say about her.  Full disclosure here.

Shumlin's statements, however, underscore a fact that is minimized and obscured; the FACT that Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat.  He's running in the Democratic Primaries for President, but he's never, ever, run as a Democrat for public office.  He's not done the sort of party building Hillary Clinton did prior to 2016.  It wasn't all that ridiculous that a party's organization lined up in favor of one of it's stalwarts against an insurgent who wasn't really a member of the party.