Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Meghan McCain On Sanders: "I don't want another misogynist as president"

[GeneralMacArthur]

Cynical?  That's politics for you.

Absolutely! And so is scorching her earth by any means necessary and through whatever it takes to take her down yet another peg (though to be fair, all the rungs on the ladder that she's slipped down thus far have been self-inflicted; what a great candidate!).

Embrace it all, or go back to your typical concern-trolling. Or perhaps you'd prefer to make an argument about how Trump will be less "cynical" or bipartisan in the general election?

Are you talking to me?  I haven't been "scorching her earth by any means necessary."  The only criticisms I ever make of Warren are either on policy or on her populist pick-a-target-to-hate campaign rhetoric (also I guess, her personally for having a bad campaign strategy).  You'll never see me make a post about her Native American heritage or her claim that she was fired for being pregnant, like the Sanders supporters on Atlas have been doing for the last day.

[Catholics vs. Convicts]

Meghan McCain On Sanders: "I don't want another misogynist as president"

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[Adam Griffin]

Cynical?  That's politics for you.

Absolutely! And so is scorching her earth by any means necessary and through whatever it takes to take her down yet another peg (though to be fair, all the rungs on the ladder that she's slipped down thus far have been self-inflicted; what a great candidate!).

Embrace it all, or go back to your typical concern-trolling. Or perhaps you'd prefer to make an argument about how Trump will be less "cynical" or bipartisan in the general election?

Are you talking to me?  I haven't been "scorching her earth by any means necessary."  The only criticisms I ever make of Warren are either on policy or on her populist pick-a-target-to-hate campaign rhetoric (also I guess, her personally for having a bad campaign strategy).  You'll never see me make a post about her Native American heritage or her claim that she was fired for being pregnant, like the Sanders supporters on Atlas have been doing for the last day.

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Yes, I'm talking to you. You are in essence defending her for engaging in cynical politics by leaking something from long ago at an opportune time in the hopes that it'll benefit her politically.

Likewise, any and all other candidates have a right to engage in whatever behavior necessary to bolster or improve their chances as well.

This is very comparable to real life war: escalation begets escalation. Only when and if one side backs down does the conflict cease, so if you want to make justifications as to why one candidate can do so, then you can't wave your finger at another for doing the same unless you want to appear as a complete and total hypocrite (something that - based on the totality of your posting history - I imagine doesn't rank highly on your list of concerns).

[GeneralMacArthur]

Cynical?  That's politics for you.

Absolutely! And so is scorching her earth by any means necessary and through whatever it takes to take her down yet another peg (though to be fair, all the rungs on the ladder that she's slipped down thus far have been self-inflicted; what a great candidate!).

Embrace it all, or go back to your typical concern-trolling. Or perhaps you'd prefer to make an argument about how Trump will be less "cynical" or bipartisan in the general election?

Are you talking to me?  I haven't been "scorching her earth by any means necessary."  The only criticisms I ever make of Warren are either on policy or on her populist pick-a-target-to-hate campaign rhetoric (also I guess, her personally for having a bad campaign strategy).  You'll never see me make a post about her Native American heritage or her claim that she was fired for being pregnant, like the Sanders supporters on Atlas have been doing for the last day.

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Yes, I'm talking to you. You are in essence defending her for engaging in cynical politics by leaking something from long ago at an opportune time in the hopes that it'll benefit her politically.

Likewise, any and all other candidates have a right to engage in whatever behavior necessary to bolster or improve their chances as well.

This is very comparable to real life war: escalation begets escalation. Only when and if one side backs down does the conflict cease, so if you want to make justifications as to why one candidate can do so, then you can't wave your finger at another for doing the same unless you want to appear as a complete and total hypocrite.

Oh I'm not defending Warren at all.  I think this is a pretty cheap shot for her to take.

I said earlier in this thread that Bernie could come out ahead if he just apologized and was magnanimous about the entire thing.  Instead his entire wing of the party got 100% triggered and half of them went full incel.

The whole thing is stupid.  They've both made themselves look bad here.

Maybe it's the CIA's fault?

https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/1217128972791820289?s=21

[Rookie Yinzer]

The vindication is real. LOL!

https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1217207063014789123?s=20

The amount of you who were in this thread hollering that it was a smear job by the media. Y’all are going to learn to stop stanning politicians like they are celebrities or religious deities to be worshiped.

[GoTfan]

The vindication is real. LOL!

https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1217207063014789123?s=20

The amount of you who were in this thread hollering that it was a smear job by the media. Y’all are going to learn to stop stanning politicians like they are celebrities or religious deities to be worshiped.

You can't really talk considering your old Beto fanboyism.

[Ebsy]

The script contains the faintest criticism possible of Warren's campaign, so yes this is a fake news smear propogated by out of touch Twitter eggs.

[GoTfan]

The script contains the faintest criticism possible of Warren's campaign, so yes this is a fake news smear propogated by out of touch Twitter eggs.

No you're making a mistake. Sanders is Satan and wants to murder enyone who's not a white man.

[Florida Man for Crime]

The vindication is real. LOL!

The amount of you who were in this thread hollering that it was a smear job by the media. Y’all are going to learn to stop stanning politicians like they are celebrities or religious deities to be worshiped.

You can't really talk considering your old Beto fanboyism.

That's not an argument.

Not that much of anything in the past 5-10 pages (or however much it is now) of this thread posted by anybody is an argument.


The reality of how I would expect this will go in the debate is something like this:

1) Bernie Sanders gets asked a question about whether a woman can win.
2) Bernie Sanders says that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, and says that not only can a woman win, but that he will be more specific about it - Elizabeth Warren can win, and that if she is the nominee he will be happy to campaign for her.
3) Everyone smiles, the audience claps.
4) Bernie Sanders transitions the answer and starts talking about health care or income inequality until his time runs out.

[Decay]

You forgot the 30 year record of saying literally everything else.

Oh you mean that one video from the 1980s?

Isn't it funny how this story drops and literally within the hour the Sanders campaign is pushing out an obscure video of him talking to children nearly 40 years ago?

Really crack investigative team they've got there, right?  To go dig up an obscure video clip from 40 years ago in under an hour.  Or maybe Sanders just has an incredible memory and can recall individual lines from a speech he gave to children in the 80s?

Or maybe, just maybe, they knew this attack was coming and had time to prepare that clip as their retort.  Wonder why they would foresee this attack if the story is a lie, though.  Hmmmm.

Posts like this make it very difficult to take these people seriously when they call Bernie Sanders supporters deranged.  A lot of projection going on.

[Beet]

The vindication is real. LOL!

Some times I fantasize that Warren made a tape of her meeting with Sanders and the last two days were just one big troll. I swear it would be even more epic than 2016 election. Alas.

[Eraserhead]

The script contains the faintest criticism possible of Warren's campaign, so yes this is a fake news smear propogated by out of touch Twitter eggs.

Yeah, I never understood why that was a story to begin with whether the script was real or not. It's insulting to say her supporters tend to be "highly educated and affluent"? It's a fact... and I hardly see how calling anyone either of those things qualifies as an insult.

[GoTfan]

The script contains the faintest criticism possible of Warren's campaign, so yes this is a fake news smear propogated by out of touch Twitter eggs.

Yeah, I never understood why that was a story to begin with whether the script was real or not. It's insulting to say her supporters tend to be "highly educated and affluent"? It's a fact... and I hardly see how calling anyone either of those things qualifies as an insult.

Personally, my qestion is why did this emerge after a poll shows Sanders leading in Iowa and Warren's support dropping away?

[Donerail]

Meghan McCain On Sanders: "I don't want another misogynist as president"

"McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, 'At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c**nt.' McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day."

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

https://twitter.com/elizlanders/status/1217290093007974400

WOO WOO

[Shadows]

The @BernieSanders campaign says it raised $1.7 million today from over 100,000 contributions -- their best fundraising debate day since launch

Decent numbers

[They not like us]

https://twitter.com/elizlanders/status/1217290093007974400

WOO WOO

I threw $5 at him right after the exchange with Warren.

[Comrade Funk]

The left is an embarrassment. Obama was an anomaly. They will never see the big picture.

[It’s so Joever]

These past few weeks have proven to me that Bernie is an unmitigated, political psychopath. He has created a cult following so strong, even Trump dwarfs in comparison. He has done this all while playing a persona of being a “kind/honest old man.” Even the Blue Avatars here seem to think he is genuine and just a bit idealistic at worst. Everything he has done this election cycle so far has been intentional. He is a smart and dangerous man.
I will vote Bernie if it somehow turns into Trump vs Sanders in 2020, but I will vote GOP for any House/Senate race in 2022 if Bernie wins just to keep this guy (and more importantly, his followers, in check)

[GoTfan]

These past few weeks have proven to me that Bernie is an unmitigated, political psychopath. He has created a cult following so strong, even Trump dwarfs in comparison. He has done this all while playing a persona of being a “kind/honest old man.” Even the Blue Avatars here seem to think he is genuine and just a bit idealistic at worst. Everything he has done this election cycle so far has been intentional. He is a smart and dangerous man.
I will vote Bernie if it somehow turns into Trump vs Sanders in 2020, but I will vote GOP for any House/Senate race in 2022 if Bernie wins just to keep this guy (and more importantly, his followers, in check)

Are you okay?

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

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I will vote Bernie if it somehow turns into Trump vs Sanders in 2020, but I will vote GOP for any House/Senate race in 2022 if Bernie wins just to keep this guy (and more importantly, his followers, in check)

The mask comes off. You're no different from our garden-variety blue avatars.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Meghan McCain On Sanders: "I don't want another misogynist as president"

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You guys realize Meghan McCain not liking him helps him, right?

[The Mikado]

Iowa can't come soon enough. This runup is awful.

[Farmlands]

I will vote Bernie if it somehow turns into Trump vs Sanders in 2020, but I will vote GOP for any House/Senate race in 2022 if Bernie wins just to keep this guy (and more importantly, his followers, in check)

It's mind-boggling to me how any self-proclaimed Democrat could look at the current GOP and want to have more of it in Congress, obstructing and continuing trying to dismantle all the progress Obama and others made. Not only that, but they're often the same people who accuse progressives of weakening the party. Hypocrisy to the max.