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« on: August 19, 2019, 06:48:41 AM »
« edited: August 19, 2019, 06:52:47 AM by Lakigigar »

I have a complex family so this might be a long post. I have two foster mom's, one dad with one stepmom and one mom that i don't see anymore because of child abuse.

Me: Used to be a social liberal who did vote for the conservative-liberal Open VLD but did make a turn to the far-left because of Sanders' campaign mainly and registered as a party member and voted PVDA in 2018 and 2019.

Foster mom 1: Always voted for christian democrats and very occassionally the conservative- flemish nationalist N-VA but did vote for the marxist PVDA under my influence last time in 2019. She's still quite right-wing, but respects me a lot and my party. She has said she moved a lot to the right recently. Did support Trump while she used to see Clinton as idol (and she has books of Hillary Clinton), also under my influence.

Grand mom: Always voted for christian democrats (cd&v) but under my influence voted for the marxist PVDA last time, as she sees them as different as the other parties.

Family of foster mom 1: Not sure about cousin. Uncle voted for conservative-nationalist N-VA probably. Other uncle either N-VA or conservative-liberal Open VLD.

Foster mom 2: Voted always Green, except during last election where she voted for the conservative Flemish nationalist because she became anti-immigration and disliked the very liberal turn of the Greens. Voted for a right-wing populist / right-wing libertarian / anti-establishment dude on the last place of the list.

Family of foster mom 2: I think they vote generally for center / center-right parties but unsure. We don't talk about politics.

Dad's side:

Dad: Votes for far-right Vlaams Belang and did like white identitarian movements. Likes Dries Van Langenhove and Theo Francken. But doesn't like Trump. Has shared fake news about islamization of Belgium on FB recently. But did vote on one list for the marxist PVDA, also under my influence.

Step Mom: Right-wing. Probably voted far-right Vlaams Belang, but she told me she doesn't like their anti-feminism platform. She's strongly against Donald Trump though.

Cousin: Voted for Dieranimal (animal right's party), but likes marxist PVDA very much as well.

Other family members: mostly voted for the far-right Vlaams Belang party.

Mom's side:

Mom itself: very anti-establishment, votes for either far-left or far-right, but i'm not sure which one. She probably voted for the far-right, as she shares posts of Pegida and the right-wing party for the animals (who did support the far-right party as most caring for the animals), but also liked labor union pages.

Parents of mom: anti-establishment, also far-left or far-right. They're very poor as well.

Family on mom's side: Once uncle votes for conservative-liberal N-VA. Unsure about others. Cousin probably voted for the far-right party Vlaams Belang.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2019, 09:39:15 AM »

Me: I'd consider myself a communitarian Blue Dog Democrat. Used to be quite left-wing in high school but evolved in university.

Brother: I don't think he follows politics very closely, but if I had to guess I'd say my brother is probably a center-left Democrat. His biggest issue is LGBTQ+ rights and especially Transgender rights, so definitely not a Republican. As a future EMT, he's also pretty partial to first responders, including police officers. Not a left-wing Democrat but a Democrat.

Mom: My mom is pretty left-wing on economic and racial issues but also pro-life. She's a unionized teacher, wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, supports universal healthcare, and is a huge public school advocate, even protesting outside the Senator's office during the DeVos vote. Afaik, she really likes Biden, Harris, and Mayor Pete this election. Caucused for Bernie and voted for Hillary in the 2016 general.

Mom's Parents: Both are PLQ voters provincially and Liberal Party of Canada voters federally (immigrant stuff). And in Portugal, my grandpa is a PSD (center right) voter, but in reality, his ideology is probably more center-left. He just doesn't like PS because of Mario Soares and has voted in line with that since. My grandmother is less politically inclined, but she's definitely a feminist. I'd say she's left of my grandpa and if she was more politically active, would probably vote PS. Both are generally socially conservative, but my grandmother has talked about illegal abortions in her village that killed women, is pretty pro LGBTQ (both are for their generation), and seems antiwar.

Dad: My dad is more centrist on economic issues than my mom and generally more libertarian on social issues, except he's very favorable towards gun control, having attended Polytechnique and lost friends during the mass shooting there. Caucused for Bernie in 2016 and voted for Hillary in November. I don't know who he's backing but my guess would be Joe Biden.

Dad's Parents: They're also usually PLQ/LPC voters and strong PSD supporters in Portugal. Both are the most right-leaning of the family. Despite being immigrants, they're against Canada's taking in Syrian refugees, and are probably voting CPC this election out of anger at Trudeau. They also are supportive of Bill 21. More hawkish when it comes to China and often lament the outsourcing of jobs. Definitely both social conservatives too.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2019, 10:29:30 AM »

Me: "I'd consider myself a communitarian Blue Dog Democrat. Used to be quite left-wing in high school but evolved in university -VPH"

This seems apt, though maybe not so much the Blue Dog part.

Sister: Very much the stereotypical SJW Millennial voter, she skipped the primaries, but voted for Hillary without any reluctance at all.

Mother: None at this point, used to be a bit of a "Think of the Children" sort of Democrat, but that was back when she had the mental capacity...even then though she was never all that political.

Father: Mainline liberal, if a bit of budget hawk. Voted for McGovern in '72 and hasn't strayed since.

Grandma: Stereotypical Fox News watching Republican in every sense of the word.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2019, 11:32:15 AM »

Me: Left-wing social democrat.

Father: Very left-wing. Voted for third-party leftists in every presidential election from 1976-2000, but since 2004 has always voted for the Democrat. Supported Obama in the 2008 primaries and Bernie in 2016.

Mother: Standard liberal. Voted for all Democrats since 1980, except in 2000 when she went for Nader. Supported Hillary in the 2008 and 2016 primaries.

Maternal Grandparents: Grandmother was traditionally a Catholic Democrat, but in the 1980s became a conservative Republican galvanized by opposition to abortion and homosexuality. Grandfather was something of a WASP Republican, and stayed that way even after his marriage and conversion to Catholicism.

Paternal Grandparents: Grandfather is a Jewish socialist. Volunteered for Henry Wallace in Brooklyn in 1948, and since then has voted for Democrats and third-party leftists. Was accused of being a member of the Communist Party in the 1950s, which he was not. Grandmother I assume had similar political views as my grandfather, but she died shortly after I was born so I don't know the specifics.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2019, 12:24:22 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2019, 12:33:24 PM by Swing State Ohio »

Mom: Not a fan of Hillary Clinton (preferred Sanders), but hates Trump and has been a fairly partisan Democrat ever since Dubya was first "elected". She believes Obama is the best president in her lifetime.

Dad: Partisan Republican since the 1970s, liked Herman Cain in 2012 and always disliked Obama. Seems to have a mixed opinion of Trump; he likes how people seem optimistic about the economy, but he voted for Clinton and donates to Planned Parenthood. I would never do such a thing.

Maternal Grandparents: Probably didn't like John F. Kennedy, but this doesn't prove they are reliable Republicans. I know that Grandma opposed gay marriage.

Other maternal family members: Mostly WWC Obama, one Republican, dunno how many were snatched up by Trump if any.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2019, 01:03:18 PM »

Raised by grandparents.

Me: Always been pretty moderate, always tended to support the President whoever he was and whatever party he was from. Obviously that’s changed now. Moderate Democrat and don’t see that changing. Willing to vote GOP in the right spots and as long as it’s more of a Kasich or Baker Republican and not a Cruz Republican and DEF NOT a Trumper.

JFK is my hero and I’m aligned with his views on practically everything so that’s pretty simple

Grandfather (not biological grandfather but might as well be) Hardcore conservative. I always thought he was hardcore conservative in the traiditional sense but he has drank the trump Kool aid hook line and sinker

Grandmother: Graduating HS and having a kid during the Vietnam era - Her first “true love” came home in a body bag from Vietnam. She was a Eugene McCarthy type (although she didn’t have the heart to tell me that for a while considering he was opposed by RFK in 68) - Anyway she met the man I consider my grandfather in the late 70’s - Early 80’s. And over time he has converted her. She didn’t seem to mind Bill Clinton but she was dead set against Obama and it really disappointed me when she latched onto the reverend wright and birth certificate situations.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2019, 03:22:41 PM »

Me: Evolved from a rightist conservative to an anti-corruption, eurofederalist liberal, ideologically. Always anti-PSD politically.

Mom: Quite leftist actually - she supports the traditional social democratic platform on everything from the minimum wage to healthcare to gay marriage (a big ! in Romania) to...you get it. However she hates the Romanian "Social Democrats" and always voted against them.

Dad: He was a nationalist in his young years and voted for Nationalist parties until Basescu came around. Now he is a... right-wing conservative on everything except, ironically, on religion. (Mom and me are somewhat devout Christians, Dad is kind of an Agnostic/Atheist, altho not publicly) However both him and mom voted for the same party (USR-PLUS) in the last elections and they rarely voted differently in the past, proofing that our politics really aren't ideological.

Maternal grandparents: Live in Transilvania, which is the only region not dominated by PSD politically right now. Hate PSD and are fans of PNL, President Iohannis and Rares Bogdan. Hard to say what they are ideological.

Paternal grandparents: Fanatical PSD fans, leftists economically and rightists socially. (talking politics with them almost always ends in a fight between they and the rest of the family)

Rest of mother's family: Mom's brother is a really really devout Christian and therefore socially conservative and left-wing on other issues, voted for USR-PLUS because of Ciolos tho, the rest are a lot like my grandparents (pro-PNL and anti-PSD)

Rest of father's family: Most apolitical, altrough some of them ocasionally go to vote against PSD in emotionally-charged moments.

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2019, 10:21:06 PM »

Father: An Obama-Trump voter. Pretty uninformed, with views all over the place. Didn't like George W. Bush, liked Ford and Carter, didn't care for Nixon, dislikes almost all military intervention but also once advocated war against Russia and suggested we should have colonized Iraq and Kuwait. Thinks 9/11 marked the terminal decline of America, and may have been an inside job. Was surprised to learn Obama was a Democart. Supports campaign finance reform. Is a libertarian on crime issues. Wants to reinstate the draft and require service. Likes Howie Carr and has become more right-wing recently. Saw Sherrod Brown speak and liked him. Considers himself WWC, and very much is.

Fathers side: In Canada they where largely pro-business Conservatives (they were involved in banking and insurance). In the US, my grandparents always refused government assistance on principle, even when they both became disabled at one point. The family was Republican early on. They are mostly Democrats now, who vote for Republicans on occasion when the Democrat doesn't suit them (generally this comes down to personality).

Mother: Fairly GOP, but voted for Clinton and Gore. Usually takes the GOP line, and though she dislikes Trump's rhetoric and refused to vote for him in 2016, she is very hardline on immigration and likes most of his policies. More consistent than my father, just as working class though.

Mothers side: Very Republican, very partisan. Volunteer on campaigns and make donations to Republican candidates. Country club types who work in sectors like defense (some vote for the GOP explicitly because their companies do better when the GOP increases the defense budget). My grandparents are much more Republican on principle. Both come from agricultural backgrounds and have never voted for a Democrat, though both spent most of their careers in various government jobs. Both have volunteered on Republican campaigns. Both were pro-Perot in 1992 and were involved in his campaign then. Still have material from that campaign laying around.

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2019, 08:34:15 AM »

Me: Anti-capitalist (DSA member, anarchist roots)

Mother: Formerly an evangelical christian and reliable Republican voter, but 2016 dramatically altered her politics; she is now a #NeverTrump independent who will vote Partisan D as long as Trump is around, and has left the evangelical movement (which she sees now as full of hypocrites) for more mainline Christianity

Father: Not terribly interested in politics, conservative on a surface level due to falling back on FM radio talking points if forced into a "political conversation," but really at heart he's an environmentalist with good anti-colonial instincts (he feels a deep sorrow for this country's genocide of the American Indians)

I have a pretty small family, and most of the rest aren't really interested in politics, so I won't bother finishing the list. I'm surprised at how many of you have families that seem politically engaged through and through, though maybe I shouldn't be given the forum we're all posting on.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2019, 10:56:14 AM »

Me: Generic Spanish Social Democrat. Voted/supported PSOE in all general elections I can remember (so, since 2015) and I am a bit of a hack (but not much), though I have supported other parties in local and regional elections; and I also like our centre-left nationalists (NCa) quite a bit  as well.

Dad: Has almost the exact same politics I do, our differences are extremely minor and only on some tiny issues. Has voted PSOE for as long as I can remember, though I think he has voted for other parties once or twice.

Mum: A weird voter in many ways though on the issues she is pretty much your standard "Socially liberal, fiscally conservative" voter. Since the party formed she has supported Cs for the most part. However she absolutely despises our right wing nationalists (CC) with a passion. Before Cs formed I think she voted for pretty much any and all parties and was a swing voter.

Brother: Your classic disaffected young lefty. He hates talking about politics but is certainly to my left on the issues. I eventually convinced him to go out and vote and I think he voted for Podemos straight ticket, but he doesn't care much about politics.

Maternal grandmother: Yet another generic Spanish social democrat much like myself and my dad, though she doesn't care as much about politics. Ironically that makes her somehow more of a PSOE hack lol.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 01:09:21 PM »

Me: Supported Sanders in 2016 primary, voted for Clinton in General, and supporting Biden now.

My girlfriend: Supported Clinton in 2016 primary, voted for Clinton in General, and supporting Kamala Harris now.

Dad: Registered as Independent but pretty standard, moderate Democrat. Voted Obama in 2008 and 2012, then Clinton in 2016. Didn't like Clinton at all but hates Trump.

Mom: Also registered as Independent, however she is a lot more apolitical than my dad. Didn't vote in 2008 or 2012, although she liked McCain until he picked Palin and she probably would have voted for Romney over Obama. Finally voted again in 2016 for Clinton because she despises Trump, although she likes Hillary way more than my dad. My mother could have been a leaning GOP voter because she somewhat conservative socially, but Trump pushed her into the Democratic fold. She votes a lot on personality rather than candidates ideologies.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 01:19:06 PM »

Uncle #1 on mom's side: Ultra-conservative monarchist, admires Francisco Franco

Sounds like an interesting guy
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2019, 01:45:16 PM »

Me: Democratic Socialist/Progressive. Voted Sanders/Clinton in 2016. Will vote straight Democrat in 2020 no matter what.

My fiancee: Pretty liberal, though not as politically involved as I am. I think she voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general.

My parents: Both hardcore Trump supporters, very racist, have voted Republican in every election they've voted in.

My fiancee's parents: Both hardcore Trump supporters. I think her mom voted for Obama in 2008, not sure about before that.

Maternal grandparents: Both very conservative. Maternal grandfather is fairly wealthy, so very pro-Trump/capitalist.

Paternal grandparents: Paternal grandfather passed before I was born, so I'm not exactly sure, but my inkling is that he was a conservative. Paternal grandmother is pretty conservative.

Mom's siblings: Very conservative.

Dad's siblings: Fairly liberal, I know my one aunt loves Trump, my other aunt doesn't like him at all, not sure about my uncle though. If I had to guess, he's probably a liberal.

Sister: Completely apolitical. I honestly couldn't even tell you if she's registered to vote.

Fiancee's siblings: Her one brother voted for Trump in 2016, her other brother isn't old enough to vote.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 02:02:51 PM »

I'm not going to list everyone now, but some highlights:

Me: Obviously center-left pragmatist, liberal on social issues and moderate on economic issues. Some might classify me as third-way Social Democrat. I'm an internationalist on foreign policy and support the EU and NATO. I believe in a strong transatlantic partnership and think the EU and USA (add Canada, Japan, etc.) are the best hope for democracy.

Wife: She's center-left on almost all issues and cares about the environment and worker protections. Other than supporting the EU, she doesn't have very deep foreign policy beliefs. She follows American politics to a degree (or is forced through me), hates Donald Trump and thinks the Republican Party is a complete joke. She's always been a big fan of Barack Obama. This cycle, she likes Joe Biden, but that's basically because I support him.

Dad: My dad, who was born Greek and became a German citizen, is kind of funny; he's a third-wayer like me on economic issues (but critical of US-style capitalism) and a more isolationist on foreign policy, though he strongly supports the EU. But he would like to abolish NATO and is very critical of post-WWII US foreign policy. He calls himself a pacifist, detests militarism and still complains about the Greek draft (he was forced to serve in the mid 1970s). On social issues, he's a very mixed bag: Extremely opposed to mass immigration to Germany from non-EU countries and thinks Islam is undemocratic and not compatible with Western culture. He's an atheist (like me and my wife), supports abortion rights and is fine with same sex marriage. However, he has reservations about gay couples adopting children. He's certainly a very political person and always good to have discussion with, even if we disagree. On the immigration issue, he actually convinced me of his stance, putting me at odds with my party.

Mum: My mom isn't that political, but she's always voted for Social Democrats. I remember her applauding the invasion in Iraq because she disliked Saddam, but she later admitted not have been educated on the issue.

Stepmom: My dad's wife has a strange combination of political views as well. She votes for Social Democrats, supports workers rights and is engaged in a union, while she often flip-flops on foreign policy. She's pro-EU and also vigorously opposed to mass immigration from Muslim and African countries. Very often she complains that immigrants from these countries are lazy and bankrupt the German welfare state. She actually likes to bring back the death penalty (which my dad strongly opposes), but is liberal on abortion rights, same sex marriage and other social issues.

Stepbrother: He's center-right and supports the Bavarian CSU (he lives in Munich). However, he doesn't have a lot of love for the Republican Party (he was born in Florida and is 7 years older than me). On social issues, he tends to be more moderate or liberal.

American uncle: My American uncle (originally from Connecticut, lives in Germany) is basically a mainstream Democrat. He supported Obama both times and Hillary in 2016. In this primary, he tends toward Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

Greek Uncle: He's leftist and SYRIZA supporter. He likes the EU and is more conservative on a variety of social issues. For example, he opposes same sex marriage and thinks Emmanuel Macron is a snob. He doesn't like the United States.
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