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« Reply #1075 on: September 01, 2020, 07:54:39 PM »

Not looking pretty for Kennedy ATM...
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« Reply #1076 on: September 01, 2020, 07:54:47 PM »

Should JKIII be worried about losing the lower cape?
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« Reply #1077 on: September 01, 2020, 07:57:11 PM »

Should JKIII be worried about losing the lower cape?

Probably not...? Which candidate is favored on the outer cape?
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« Reply #1078 on: September 01, 2020, 07:58:11 PM »

Any MA experts have an indication of which way the race likely goes at this (early) point?

Too early to say. Neither candidate is running away with it.

If Kennedy loses, I wonder what that means for his future career. On one hand, it's impressive to run against an incumbent and come close to beating them. But it seems he's alienated many progressives by primarying Markey, and he'd come out of this looking pretty bad. I can't imagine him not running for higher office again in the near future.

It doesn't help that he had no coherent, justifiable reason for running beyond "I'm a Kennedy and I'm bored in the job I have now." If Markey had done something to seriously alienate Democrats or engaged in corrupt behavior, that would have been another thing.

Even the age argument (Markey's 74) rings hollow when you consider he's really not "old" by the standards of the modern Senate. Compare to say, when Barry Goldwater nearly lost in 1980 in part because his opponent argued he was too old to keep up with the job (he was 71 at the time).

The saddest example I know: 1982, when Millicent Fenwick (72) ran for Senate in New Jersey as a liberal Republican and lost in part because she was attacked as too old by her opponent - one Frank Lautenberg, who was a Senator until he died in office at 89!
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« Reply #1079 on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:11 PM »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?
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« Reply #1080 on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:22 PM »

Not looking pretty for Kennedy ATM...

Not sure how you can make that type of claim in the firs hour of a basically tied race with none of the Boston vote. If anything, I'm pleasantly surprised with Kennedy's margin in Springfield (22% in).
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« Reply #1081 on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:31 PM »

Guys. I don’t know if I’m the only MA guy checking in but the keys that make Markey likely to be projected very soon:

• Low turnout in Lawrence
• South numbers for Kennedy but by single digits.
• Small burbs with well off rich folks are exploding for Markey by 70% in some cases

It’ll be closer than the polls but not by much. Markey has this won.

As I’ve said since June
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« Reply #1082 on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:49 PM »

Should JKIII be worried about losing the lower cape?

Probably not...? Which candidate is favored on the outer cape?

Definitely JKIII
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« Reply #1083 on: September 01, 2020, 08:00:30 PM »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?

Yes. All the cities are Kennedy territory except Boston which is a tossup
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« Reply #1084 on: September 01, 2020, 08:00:33 PM »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?

This much? Probably not. But despite Markey's anticipated strength in Western MA, it is a very WWC area which is evidently good for Kennedy. Biden did particularly well here on Super Tuesday.
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« Reply #1085 on: September 01, 2020, 08:01:00 PM »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?

Kennedy's stronger with people of color and non-college whites, so Springfield is somewhere he'd need to do well.
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« Reply #1086 on: September 01, 2020, 08:01:14 PM »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?

I'm surprised how much of a lead he has in Fall River
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« Reply #1087 on: September 01, 2020, 08:02:43 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2020, 08:19:21 PM by lfromnj »

I am by no means an expert in Mass. politics, but is Springfield supposed to be going to Kennedy by this much?

I'm surprised how much of a lead he has in Fall River

White catholic ethnics going for a Kennedy?

WHAT A SHOCKER !
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« Reply #1088 on: September 01, 2020, 08:04:30 PM »

As a big Ed fan, I like where this is going, still close though.
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« Reply #1089 on: September 01, 2020, 08:05:21 PM »

Natick adds 2.5K votes to Markey's column.

I'm interested most in Boston right now, given the Kennedy numbers in certain minority areas.
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« Reply #1090 on: September 01, 2020, 08:05:23 PM »

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« Reply #1091 on: September 01, 2020, 08:05:44 PM »

I'm really enjoying the back & forth going on. Every minute, someone else takes the lead.

That being said, based on my very little research & observation on MA elections, I think I'd rather be Markey right now
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« Reply #1092 on: September 01, 2020, 08:06:50 PM »

Seen on Twitter: Markey won a precinct in Somerville, 349-101, and a precinct in Allston-Brighton with 80%.
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« Reply #1093 on: September 01, 2020, 08:07:47 PM »



Uhhhh...
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« Reply #1094 on: September 01, 2020, 08:08:07 PM »



Uhhhh...

PRO MARKEY ANTI MALARKEY! Whoop!
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« Reply #1095 on: September 01, 2020, 08:08:21 PM »

Seems a bit early for a call, no?
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« Reply #1096 on: September 01, 2020, 08:08:44 PM »


Uhhhh...

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« Reply #1097 on: September 01, 2020, 08:09:09 PM »

I wonder who turns their back on who first then. Markey or Progressives because it going to come.
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« Reply #1098 on: September 01, 2020, 08:09:13 PM »

Early call but never too early for a new signature!
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« Reply #1099 on: September 01, 2020, 08:10:37 PM »

Why is Kennedy doing so well in minority areas? Is it perhaps nostalgia for his grandfather, who was beloved by black voters? Or his recent appeals to those voters on racial justice issues?
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