Dayton shooter Connor Betts was an anti-Trump, radical leftist

[Grassroots]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” The Greene County Board of Elections lists his party as “Dem.”

 

[Bidenworth2020]

This is so not the point dude. Lives were lost, and regardless of political affiliation, I think the real message of these horrible.mass shootings is that we need gun control.

[Hindsight was 2020]

K. And you point?

[Grassroots]

K. And you point?

There is no point. Just putting this out there to quell any misconceptions about the motives behind this terrorist.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Very good thread here on the commonality in these shootings: https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1158164710551896065

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

One of the shootings was politically-motivated, the other shooting was not. This could be extremely relevant, as the El Paso shooting may very well have not been a "lone wolf" shooting, but the Dayton shooting was, almost certainly, a lone wolf shooting. You certainly cannot describe the Dayton shooter as a terrorist...

[Kizzuwanda]

One of the shootings was politically-motivated, the other shooting was not. This could be extremely relevant, as the El Paso shooting may very well have not been a "lone wolf" shooting, but the Dayton shooting was, almost certainly, a lone wolf shooting. You certainly cannot describe the Dayton shooter as a terrorist...

Are you sure that the Dayton shooting was not some kind of accelerationist "revenge" for El Paso? Though most of the victims were black. I really have no idea.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

One of the shootings was politically-motivated, the other shooting was not. This could be extremely relevant, as the El Paso shooting may very well have not been a "lone wolf" shooting, but the Dayton shooting was, almost certainly, a lone wolf shooting. You certainly cannot describe the Dayton shooter as a terrorist...

Are you sure that the Dayton shooting was not some kind of accelerationist "revenge" for El Paso? Though most of the victims were black. I really have no idea.

He killed his sister!  That's something that's rarely politically motivated.

[Kizzuwanda]

One of the shootings was politically-motivated, the other shooting was not. This could be extremely relevant, as the El Paso shooting may very well have not been a "lone wolf" shooting, but the Dayton shooting was, almost certainly, a lone wolf shooting. You certainly cannot describe the Dayton shooter as a terrorist...

Are you sure that the Dayton shooting was not some kind of accelerationist "revenge" for El Paso? Though most of the victims were black. I really have no idea.

He killed his sister!  That's something that's rarely politically motivated.

Maybe he was an alt-righter pretending to be a leftist so antifa would be blamed and Trump would be reelected, and he also wanted to kill two birds with one stone by killing a bunch of black people and having and antifa blamed for it. And he also hated his sister. I really have no idea though.

[NOVA Green]

Grassr00ts once again doing a bogus false equivalency between White Nationalist / White Supremacist mass murders, and trying to take a completely different type of mass shooting to distract and deflect from his despicable statements regarding the El Paso massacre....

Apparently some of his statements are now being taken to mean on this very forum that somehow the Dayton shooter was some sort of "radical leftist" who committed this mass murder as some sort of political agenda.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327919.msg6912312#msg6912312

I have not attempted to politicize the tragedy, despite the encouragement that the President provides to White Extremist Domestic Violent political formations....

I have not attempted to use the tragedy to call for massive regulation of private ownership of guns, as opposed to many others.

Still Grassr00ts, is now trying to exploit this tragedy and shift the issue, although he never responded for my call for him to completely condemn the White Supremacist / Nationalist Domestic Terrorist Movement.

I asked a simple question:

"8.) My question for you is simply this: Do you support a massive crackdown against White Supremacist political formations, or will you continue to blame Atlas members that might post a picture that you don't like because of some bizarre moral false equivalency issue you got going on in your head?

Please immediately condemn the actions of the extremist White Supremacist Movement, otherwise it might well appear that you are a fellow traveler."

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327624.msg6910883#msg6910883

Grassr00ts never responded, and now for whatever reason is continuing the same Neo-Nazi trip about "both sides do it" after reporting me to the Mods and requesting I be banned for simply posting picture.....

Reminds me of the slippery White Supremacist snakes of the American Front and similar organizations I had to deal with small Mill Towns in Oregon back in the Mid to late 1980s, where they constantly divert conversations while they are on a recruiting gig, pandering to whatever concerns might be on the mind of their targets, to build their hate-based movement....

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Populism is a toxin for the mind. People become convinced that the system is out to get them, and they react violently. The extreme fringes at each end blur into a circle, and this is the result.

[7,052,770]

The right-wing snowflakes really needed this, since "winning on the scoreboard" is the most important thing to them.

On the other side, the left condemns all gun violence equally, regardless of the politics or apolitics of the shooter, and wants to solve it all, including both the <1% of gun deaths from mass shootings and the >99% not from mass shootings.

[MarkD]

K. And you point?

There is no point. Just putting this out there to quell any misconceptions about the motives behind this terrorist.

I think you're getting revenge for the fact that so much attention in the El Paso shooting has been focused on the politics of that shooter.

Politicizing these crimes -- "the shooter was a right-wing, Trump supporter," but "this other shooter is a left-winger" -- makes me utterly disgusted with both parties. I had more than enough of this bulls**t when I was frequenting Yahoo!Answers.

[7,052,770]

K. And you point?

There is no point. Just putting this out there to quell any misconceptions about the motives behind this terrorist.

I think you're getting revenge for the fact that so much attention in the El Paso shooting has been focused on the politics of that shooter.

Politicizing these crimes -- "the shooter was a right-wing, Trump supporter," but "this other shooter is a left-winger" -- makes me utterly disgusted with both parties. I had more than enough of this bulls**t when I was frequenting Yahoo!Answers.

I hear you, but let's not gloss over the fact that the El Paso shooting was explicitly politically motivated, and we can draw a direct connection between Trump's racist and anti-immigrant vitriol and the attitudes that this shooter and others have had as they committed their crimes. On the other hand, there's nothing in liberal or Democratic ideology or rhetoric that would have inspired or contributed to the Dayton's shooter's actions.

That's a key difference. In one shooting, the shooter's political beliefs were not connected to his action, in the other shooting, they were. And even worse, the President of the United States is stoking the resentment, not just some random nobody clown on Twitter 4chan or whatever. We're not saying "oh haha, the shooter was a Republican this time, score one for our side!!" - we're saying "oh wow, the president's (and others' in the Republican party) attitude and vitriol is directly inspiring his supporters to mass murder dark-skinned people."

[Bandit3 the Worker]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” The Greene County Board of Elections lists his party as “Dem.”

 

Heavy.com is a fake news site.

[DrScholl]

But I thought these shootings shouldn't be politicized?

[Hammy]

Grassr00ts once again doing a bogus false equivalency between White Nationalist / White Supremacist mass murders, and trying to take a completely different type of mass shooting to distract and deflect from his despicable statements regarding the El Paso massacre....

Apparently some of his statements are now being taken to mean on this very forum that somehow the Dayton shooter was some sort of "radical leftist" who committed this mass murder as some sort of political agenda.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327919.msg6912312#msg6912312

I have not attempted to politicize the tragedy, despite the encouragement that the President provides to White Extremist Domestic Violent political formations....

I have not attempted to use the tragedy to call for massive regulation of private ownership of guns, as opposed to many others.

Still Grassr00ts, is now trying to exploit this tragedy and shift the issue, although he never responded for my call for him to completely condemn the White Supremacist / Nationalist Domestic Terrorist Movement.

I asked a simple question:

"8.) My question for you is simply this: Do you support a massive crackdown against White Supremacist political formations, or will you continue to blame Atlas members that might post a picture that you don't like because of some bizarre moral false equivalency issue you got going on in your head?

Please immediately condemn the actions of the extremist White Supremacist Movement, otherwise it might well appear that you are a fellow traveler."

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327624.msg6910883#msg6910883

Grassr00ts never responded, and now for whatever reason is continuing the same Neo-Nazi trip about "both sides do it" after reporting me to the Mods and requesting I be banned for simply posting picture.....

Reminds me of the slippery White Supremacist snakes of the American Front and similar organizations I had to deal with small Mill Towns in Oregon back in the Mid to late 1980s, where they constantly divert conversations while they are on a recruiting gig, pandering to whatever concerns might be on the mind of their targets, to build their hate-based movement....

Apologies for not seeing that post, I have responded to your question. Of course, when it's a white nationalist terrorist you go head over heels into partisan banter, but if it talks about the Antifa terrorism displayed by the Dayton shooter, you don't care. Possibly because you are a Antifa supporter yourself. The double standards here from you are blatant. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself. So I just have one question for you:

Do you support a massive crackdown against Antifa or other radical left political formations, or will you continue to blame Atlas members that might post a picture that you don't like because of some bizarre moral false equivalency issue you got going on in your head?

Please immediately condemn the actions of Antifa, otherwise it might well appear that you are a fellow traveler.

Comparing Antifa, who are at worst vandals, to white supremacists, whose goal is to literally exclude from functioning society (at best) and kill everyone who isn't them at worst, automatically forfeits credibility you may have otherwise had.

[Kizzuwanda]

But I thought these shootings shouldn't be politicized?

No matter who is responsible, if you make a shooting an excuse for "gun control" (that is, only allowing the repressive arm of the capitalist state to own guns while disarming the working class) you are politicizing it.

[Green Line]

Every idealogy has extremists.  The only solution is love for thy neighbor.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I've stayed out of these debates on Atlas because nothing good comes from them, but, I don't think the shooter in Dayton was acting on a political manifesto, so why is it relevant who he voted for?  If we hear later that he had an ideology the caused the attack, then this post might be relevant.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

This whataboutery and defection is quite weak.  Let a pro show you how to do it (not my OC):

OKAY IF THE F#CKING EL PASO SHOOTER WAS A WHITE NATIONALIST WHY WAS HIS DAD A JEWISH PSYCHIATRIST WHO WORKED ON DRUG INDUCED MIND CONTROL RESEARCH AT A SHUTDOWN PSYCHIATRY RESEARCH CLINIC FOR THE CIA AND WHY THE F#CK IS HIS MOM LATINO.

SO WHY IS THIS LATINO/JEWISH "WHITE SUPREMACIST" COMING OUT AND SHOOTING AT HIS OWN PEOPLE *LATINOS*, AND WHY WAS HIS FATHER'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL SCRUBBED FROM THE INTERNET. AND WHY WAS ALL HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ALTERED THE DAY OF THE SHOOTING TO F#CKING SAY HES A TRUMP SUPPORTER WHEN PREVIOUSLY HE REFERRED TO HIMSELF AS A DEMOCRAT.

ALSO, WHY DID HIS FATHER HAVE TIES TO THE BRAZILIAN HEALER JOHN OF GOD WHO LEAD A PEDOPHILIA RING?

YO HOLD THE F#CK UP. I DON'T THROW THE TERM FALSE FLAG AROUND LOOSELY. BUT COME THE F#CK ON. THIS DUDE WAS MKULTRA AS F#CK.

AND HE WASN'T EVEN WHITE.

TRUMP AND THE ENTIRE F#CKING ALT-RIGHT IS A FRONT FOR A ZIONIST PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION MEANT TO TEAR OUR COUNTRY APART. HE WASN'T PUT INTO OFFICE BY RUSSIA, HE WAS PUT THERE BY ISRAEL. THE ENTIRE SHADOW GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY ZIONIST INTERESTS. THIS WHOLE THING IS MEANT TO TURN US AGAINST EACH OTHER AND LABEL WHITE PEOPLE A THREAT WHEN IN REALITY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES BEHIND THESE SHOOTINGS ARE THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES WHICH HAVE BEEN CO-OPTED BY BAD ACTORS

[ProudModerate2]

I've stayed out of these debates on Atlas because nothing good comes from them, but, I don't think the shooter in Dayton was acting on a political manifesto, so why is it relevant who he voted for?  If we hear later that he had an ideology the caused the attack, then this post might be relevant.

We are talking about Grassr00ts who created this thread.
We shouldn't act too surprised.

[Grassroots]

Grassr00ts once again doing a bogus false equivalency between White Nationalist / White Supremacist mass murders, and trying to take a completely different type of mass shooting to distract and deflect from his despicable statements regarding the El Paso massacre....

Apparently some of his statements are now being taken to mean on this very forum that somehow the Dayton shooter was some sort of "radical leftist" who committed this mass murder as some sort of political agenda.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327919.msg6912312#msg6912312

I have not attempted to politicize the tragedy, despite the encouragement that the President provides to White Extremist Domestic Violent political formations....

I have not attempted to use the tragedy to call for massive regulation of private ownership of guns, as opposed to many others.

Still Grassr00ts, is now trying to exploit this tragedy and shift the issue, although he never responded for my call for him to completely condemn the White Supremacist / Nationalist Domestic Terrorist Movement.

I asked a simple question:

"8.) My question for you is simply this: Do you support a massive crackdown against White Supremacist political formations, or will you continue to blame Atlas members that might post a picture that you don't like because of some bizarre moral false equivalency issue you got going on in your head?

Please immediately condemn the actions of the extremist White Supremacist Movement, otherwise it might well appear that you are a fellow traveler."

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=327624.msg6910883#msg6910883

Grassr00ts never responded, and now for whatever reason is continuing the same Neo-Nazi trip about "both sides do it" after reporting me to the Mods and requesting I be banned for simply posting picture.....

Reminds me of the slippery White Supremacist snakes of the American Front and similar organizations I had to deal with small Mill Towns in Oregon back in the Mid to late 1980s, where they constantly divert conversations while they are on a recruiting gig, pandering to whatever concerns might be on the mind of their targets, to build their hate-based movement....

Apologies for not seeing that post, I have responded to your question. Of course, when it's a white nationalist terrorist you go head over heels into partisan banter, but if it talks about the Antifa terrorism displayed by the Dayton shooter, you don't care. Possibly because you are a Antifa supporter yourself. The double standards here from you are blatant. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself. So I just have one question for you:

Do you support a massive crackdown against Antifa or other radical left political formations, or will you continue to blame Atlas members that might post a picture that you don't like because of some bizarre moral false equivalency issue you got going on in your head?

Please immediately condemn the actions of Antifa, otherwise it might well appear that you are a fellow traveler.

Comparing Antifa, who are at worst vandals, to white supremacists, whose goal is to literally exclude from functioning society (at best) and kill everyone who isn't them at worst, automatically forfeits credibility you may have otherwise had.

They are both terrorist organizations so they are the same in my book.

[Grassroots]

This whataboutery and defection is quite weak.  Let a pro show you how to do it (not my OC):

OKAY IF THE F#CKING EL PASO SHOOTER WAS A WHITE NATIONALIST WHY WAS HIS DAD A JEWISH PSYCHIATRIST WHO WORKED ON DRUG INDUCED MIND CONTROL RESEARCH AT A SHUTDOWN PSYCHIATRY RESEARCH CLINIC FOR THE CIA AND WHY THE F#CK IS HIS MOM LATINO.

SO WHY IS THIS LATINO/JEWISH "WHITE SUPREMACIST" COMING OUT AND SHOOTING AT HIS OWN PEOPLE *LATINOS*, AND WHY WAS HIS FATHER'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL SCRUBBED FROM THE INTERNET. AND WHY WAS ALL HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ALTERED THE DAY OF THE SHOOTING TO F#CKING SAY HES A TRUMP SUPPORTER WHEN PREVIOUSLY HE REFERRED TO HIMSELF AS A DEMOCRAT.

ALSO, WHY DID HIS FATHER HAVE TIES TO THE BRAZILIAN HEALER JOHN OF GOD WHO LEAD A PEDOPHILIA RING?

YO HOLD THE F#CK UP. I DON'T THROW THE TERM FALSE FLAG AROUND LOOSELY. BUT COME THE F#CK ON. THIS DUDE WAS MKULTRA AS F#CK.

AND HE WASN'T EVEN WHITE.

TRUMP AND THE ENTIRE F#CKING ALT-RIGHT IS A FRONT FOR A ZIONIST PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION MEANT TO TEAR OUR COUNTRY APART. HE WASN'T PUT INTO OFFICE BY RUSSIA, HE WAS PUT THERE BY ISRAEL. THE ENTIRE SHADOW GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY ZIONIST INTERESTS. THIS WHOLE THING IS MEANT TO TURN US AGAINST EACH OTHER AND LABEL WHITE PEOPLE A THREAT WHEN IN REALITY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES BEHIND THESE SHOOTINGS ARE THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES WHICH HAVE BEEN CO-OPTED BY BAD ACTORS

How is this whataboutery, it's just informative.

[Grassroots]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” The Greene County Board of Elections lists his party as “Dem.”

 

Heavy.com is a fake news site.

The twitter account is not, and this has been reported by other sites as well.