UK General Discussion: 2019. Blackadder goes Brexit.

[Helsinkian]

BoJo asks opposition parties to table a motion of no-confidence. Opposition says "lol no".

[brucejoel99]

BoJo asks opposition parties to table a motion of no-confidence. Opposition says "lol no".

*When you're so weak & incompetent that you've left yourself in a position where you can't even collapse your own government.*

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

BoJo asks opposition parties to table a motion of no-confidence. Opposition says "lol no".

"wHY woN't JeReMy COrbyN VotE agaINST Me?!"

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

BoJo could try to pull Balfour by going to the palace, tendering his resignation and "advising" the Queen to invite the Leader of the Opposition, since his party is unable to fork a working government. But of course that would prevent him from pulling the "they forced us out!" card.

[DaWN]

You know, I'm beginning to get the impression this might not be a very good government

[brucejoel99]

You know, I'm beginning to get the impression this might not be a very good government

Not a very strong & stable government indeed. Still, could be worse... we could always have chaos with Ed Miliband, after all.

[Lumine]

Johnson was warned repeatedly about his use of language ("surrender", "betrayal", "traitors") given the present context - several MP's have raised the issue of how many death threats they've recieved -, and when an MP asked him to be careful with dangerous terms in light of what happened to Jo Cox.

Johnson's response? "I never heard such humbug in all my life.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Johnson was warned repeatedly about his use of language ("surrender", "betrayal", "traitors") given the present context - several MP's have raised the issue of how many death threats they've recieved -, and when an MP asked him to be careful with dangerous terms in light of what happened to Jo Cox.

Johnson's response? "I never heard such humbug in all my life.

That's because Boris Johnson doesn't care.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A few less whisky-breakfasts would do our politics the world of good right now, I think.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Well, that was....something.

[OSR stands with Israel]

BoJo asks opposition parties to table a motion of no-confidence. Opposition says "lol no".

Wait doesnt Boris want the opposition to bring forward a no-confidence motion, if so why would he wanted it tabled

[Zinneke]

You know, I'm beginning to get the impression this might not be a very good government

I was, but then I saw Johnson's speech at the UN and I quite like this government.

[Angel of Death]

BoJo asks opposition parties to table a motion of no-confidence. Opposition says "lol no".

Wait doesnt Boris want the opposition to bring forward a no-confidence motion, if so why would he wanted it tabled

In parliamentary procedure, the verb to table has the opposite meaning in different countries:

• In the United States, to "table" usually means to postpone or suspend consideration of a pending motion.
• In the rest of the English-speaking world, to "table" means to begin consideration (or reconsideration) of a proposal.

[CumbrianLefty]

You know, I'm beginning to get the impression this might not be a very good government

Not a very strong & stable government indeed. Still, could be worse... we could always have chaos with Ed Miliband, after all.

A reminder that in an alternate universe, his first term as PM still has half a year to run.

[Illiniwek]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

[Peanut]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

Even if they aren't, would you really wanna risk 5 years of Boris Johnson?

[Zinneke]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

Because, assuming they win an outright majority, which is unlikely, it would leave them very little time to avoid no deal or a sh**t deal. If they get elected just before the summit, they'll have a week to settle on a policy.

Johnson wanted election day to be the Monday after Brexit IIRC. Which is also a ballsy move but his whole leadership campaign is about October 31st and getting Brexit over with. And judging by the polls most people are fed up too, so the opposition, particularly Labour's, contorted idea of yet another extension is not appealing.

[cp]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

I think it's more that an election pre-31 October is a genuine tossup, whereas after 31 October it will be far more difficult for the Tories to win.

[YL]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

Because a dissolution now would remove parliamentary scrutiny between now and 31 October, potentially (if Johnson can find a loophole in the Benn act, or if he tries to get away with ignoring it) allowing a no deal Brexit just before the election.

[CumbrianLefty]

So why does the opposition not want an election? They are that confident they would lose?

Because, assuming they win an outright majority, which is unlikely, it would leave them very little time to avoid no deal or a sh**t deal. If they get elected just before the summit, they'll have a week to settle on a policy.

Johnson wanted election day to be the Monday after Brexit IIRC. Which is also a ballsy move but his whole leadership campaign is about October 31st and getting Brexit over with. And judging by the polls most people are fed up too, so the opposition, particularly Labour's, contorted idea of yet another extension is not appealing.

This is over-simplifying it tbh, there is still quite a lot of support out there for the various options of "compromise" - extend/referendum/deal. Though both the Tories and LibDems dream of a GE with voters utterly polarised between no deal and revoke, we are still (thankfully) some way from that.

(and that doesn't contradict lots of people being fed up with Brexit and wanting it "over with" - the reality of course is that a no deal crashout is almost the worst possible way of getting that)

[Silent Hunter]

A few less whisky-breakfasts would do our politics the world of good right now, I think.

An outright ban of alcohol in the Commons even more.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

A few less whisky-breakfasts would do our politics the world of good right now, I think.

An outright ban of alcohol in the Commons even more.

Lazare Carnot and Saint-Just had an ongoing dispute regarding alcohol in the National Convention. Saint-Just, who was against it, lost the argument, as well as his head.

[Silent Hunter]

Boris Johnson referred to police watchdog over Jennifer Arcuri links

[Blue3]

https://twitter.com/bencoates1/status/1176750116474163201?

[GoTfan]

How close are we to a full-blown constituttional crisis?