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Question: A racist or a socialist?
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Generally, its immoral to be a white supremacist/racist
 
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Generally, its immoral to be a socialist or anti-capitalist
 
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Both are immoral, but it is a matter of degree. Someone who is seriously racist is about as immoral as someone who has some socialist ideations
 
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Both are immoral, but its a matter of degree. Someone who identifies as a Marxist is about as moral as someone who has some slight incidental or casual racism
 
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Its OK to be racist and its OK to be a socialist
 
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« on: July 16, 2019, 12:42:50 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 12:47:47 PM »

Obviously a racist, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 12:48:39 PM »

This is a ridiculous dichotomy you've arranged here, and I hope you're being facetious.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2019, 12:52:47 PM »

We should all be anti-capitalists in our hearts and understand that it is the best system we have but far from ideal / perfect. As a matte of practicality, I am pro-capitalist because it is better and more just than socialism and communism.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 01:05:38 PM »

$ocialism and ˘ommunism have caused more death and destruction than white nationalism. Socialists and communists also have more power in this country than white nationalists.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 01:10:59 PM »

$ocialism and ˘ommunism have caused more death and destruction than white nationalism. Socialists and communists also have more power in this country than white nationalists.

And capitalism has caused more deaths than both combined.

Also, if socialists and communists had any actual power in this country, don't you think we'd have universal healthcare by now, or at the very least a slightly stronger social safety net???
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2019, 01:16:10 PM »

$ocialism and ˘ommunism have caused more death and destruction than white nationalism. Socialists and communists also have more power in this country than white nationalists.

And capitalism has caused more deaths than both combined.

Also, if socialists and communists had any actual power in this country, don't you think we'd have universal healthcare by now, or at the very least a slightly stronger social safety net???

I said they have more power in that there are far more open socialists and communists being tolerated in our society than there are white nationalists being tolerated in our society. A Hollywood Actor can subscribe to the same economic system that killed hundreds of millions, when they'd be shut out for simply wanting the white version of Wakanda from that movie Black Panther, which came out last year in theaters and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 01:40:26 PM »

Again Depends on the person and extent.  Obviously, people like Fidel Castro were worse than people like George Wallace, and Maduro are worse than people like Steve King as well.

 On the other hand, Steve King is worse than Bernie Sanders and Segregationists were worse than people like Henry Wallace.



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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 01:41:34 PM »

#4 closest option.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 02:25:45 PM »


... there went my irony meter
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2019, 03:16:18 PM »

It is clearly immoral to be a racist. There are more subtle, and usually harmless expressions of bigotry that show cluelessness. Really-ugly racism that derides people for their origins is now grossly immoral.

Socialism? It depends on the type. Social democracy has a good record on human rights and civil liberties. Marxism-Leninism is of course abysmal -- and it is clearly obsolete. It is both a folly and seriously harmful. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2019, 03:25:28 PM »

They are both immoral.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2019, 03:37:48 PM »

$ocialism and ˘ommunism have caused more death and destruction than white nationalism. Socialists and communists also have more power in this country than white nationalists.

And capitalism has caused more deaths than both combined.

Also, if socialists and communists had any actual power in this country, don't you think we'd have universal healthcare by now, or at the very least a slightly stronger social safety net???

I said they have more power in that there are far more open socialists and communists being tolerated in our society than there are white nationalists being tolerated in our society. A Hollywood Actor can subscribe to the same economic system that killed hundreds of millions, when they'd be shut out for simply wanting the white version of Wakanda from that movie Black Panther, which came out last year in theaters and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray.
Funny, you people get so offended by the "Trump is literally Hitler" line, and yet lack to cognitive awareness to realise you are doing the same thing
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2019, 03:58:53 PM »


Funny you should say that. I know you're an atheist (as am I), but it's strange you'd call socialism immoral when a lot of things that Jesus said in the Bible are certainly pretty close to what the right would consider socialism. luckily Republicans worship Supply Side Jesus instead of actual Jesus.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2019, 04:06:12 PM »


Funny you should say that. I know you're an atheist (as am I), but it's strange you'd call socialism immoral when a lot of things that Jesus said in the Bible are certainly pretty close to what the right would consider socialism. luckily Republicans worship Supply Side Jesus instead of actual Jesus.

Jesus didn't talk about political policy.
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2019, 04:09:25 PM »

$ocialism and ˘ommunism have caused more death and destruction than white nationalism. Socialists and communists also have more power in this country than white nationalists.

Since when have the people in Scandinavian countries (like Denmark, Finland, etc) caused "death and destruction" to their people, with their welfare/socialist ways?
If anything, they have created happier and healthier citizens.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2019, 06:37:04 PM »

It's objectively immoral to be bigoted. One can be a hardcore leftist and not necessarily be Che Guevara by default.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2019, 06:38:43 PM »


Funny you should say that. I know you're an atheist (as am I), but it's strange you'd call socialism immoral when a lot of things that Jesus said in the Bible are certainly pretty close to what the right would consider socialism. luckily Republicans worship Supply Side Jesus instead of actual Jesus.

If the poll were to ask which was worse-- religion or socialism-- then I'd be in a real dilemma. Both promise a nonexistent paradise and instead deliver only misery and toil in the service of a cold authoritarian leader. I suppose both sides need their own unique delusions to keep them convinced of their moral righteousness while they're bulldozing corpses into mass graves.

Anyway, to answer the poll, at least there have been racists who've contributed positively to human history.
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